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  1. Jet Blue

    Jet Blue New Member

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    You don't shield him... He was out there wasn't he?

    You run the ball, your defense shuts down a pathetic offense without it's QB.. Then you collect the W and let Mark learn from WINNING...

    Then next time it's bad weather Sanchez say's "Hey, we won last time in bad weather - lets take it from ther e- maybe add a little more"

    Maybe he continues to get practice in cold weather...

    But, you build him up positively...

    THIS GAME WAS ALREADY WON!!!!
     
  2. Mehl-56

    Mehl-56 Well-Known Member

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    Its not ok to throw on first down, after your QB has thrown 4 picks, its overtime, and your picking up 5 yards a clip on the GROUND, and the defense has not shown any glimpse of being able to stop it... no, no sir it is not ok to throw on first down.

    EDITED IN: *** AT THAT POINT ITS NOT EVEN OK TO THROW ON 3RD DOWN! ***
     
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  3. Jet Blue

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    It's pretty simple..

    You don't throw if you don't have to.... A lead, a no- name QB, an offense that could barely score with it's starting QB..


    The Better question is WHEN DO YOU POUND THE ROCK AND IMPOSE YOUR WILL TO WIN A GAME!!!!!!

    The Ravens ran the ball 500 times last year.....
     
  4. bigmehl

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    Yeah I'm sure Rex was sitting on the sideline saying hmm let's see this is the Bills a division rival - they'll implode - they've done it in the past no worry. That argument is weak at best.

    Plus Ryan Fitzpatrick(2nd string) if you didn't notice played pretty well against us and when he started for Cincy last year. He actually gave Buffalo a better chance because he had mobility that Edwards lacked . But you know what Dick Jauron and the Bills OC were idiots for letting him throw the ball - after all it was windy and he's not experienced.

    The game against Cleveland was in 40-45 MPH winds that made the weather at the Meadowlands look like a day at the park.
     
  5. bigmehl

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    It was 13-3 . The game was not already won. You people act like we had a 28 point lead with 5 minutes left and started throwing the ball all over the place.
     
  6. mesheler

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    I second Garcia.

    Maybe a little competition will be good for him.

    Sorry Clemens, you aren't cut out for the NFL. Take the money and run. Go buy a car dealership in Oregon or wherever you're from!
     
  7. bigmehl

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    So what's the magic number , if your QB has more than 3 picks , you automaticallly stop passing and resort to running only. Plus what everyone is still overlooking , if we don't get called for a holding penalty on a RUN play we most likely win the game.


    Plus Buffalo held like 40% of our runs to 2 yards or worse. Its not like the run was a slam dunk guarentee.
     
  8. Mehl-56

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    It was a better chance than putting the ball in the air, with a ROOKIE QB who clearly was "somewhere else" and struggling, unlike Fitzpatrick, who has experience as a starter. He (Sanchez) was having ZERO success throwing the ball all day, and his #'s proved it... so yeah let him keep throwing. It's coaching like that that has this team sitting where it is right now...
     
  9. ace_o_spades

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    It was 13-3 at halftime, the Bills offense was going NOWHERE. Interceptions just give them chance after chance. No matter how bad an offense is, you keep giving them chances they'll find a way to put something together, esp when they have decent starting field position each time.



    Garcia sucks


    You're missing the point. The point isn't "if we run the ball we would have won by 40". If we control the clock with the run game and continue to shut down the Bills offense we would have walked away with a W. This was a game that had to be won ugly and Schotty wanted to win it pretty
     
  10. Mehl-56

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    but all he does is win!
     
  11. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    We got in FG position to win the game in over time with a nice drive. First play was a 1 yard run by TJ from our own 15 which was followed by a 22 yard completion to Edwards which set up the 33 yard run by Leon that essentially put us in FG position to win the game until a holding penalty on a running play pushed us out.

    Without that 22 yard pass we may well have three and outed from the 15 and punted and lost right there instead of lossing because of bad line play on a running play.
     
  12. Mehl-56

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    Even a blind squirrel finds a nut - so he completed a pass, on a horrible day all together in regards to his play. The point is, even though the Jets rushed for over 300 yards, the Offensive Coordinator, and the Head Coach by default, because that's who the OC is responsable to, still put it on the ROOKIE QB's Shoulders to win the game, well before OT... UNACCEPTABLE!
     
  13. Mehl-56

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    and how do you know that, thats like saying if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle
     
  14. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    I don't know that, I do know that when Buffalo was expecting the run on first down we got 1 yard and when they were expecting the run on second down we passed for 22 yards and when they didn't know WTF was coming next we ran for 33 yards.
     
  15. bigmehl

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    The point is 10 points is not a safe margin to go into shutdown mode. Plus let's look at where the Bills got the ball on those 5 Sanchez picks . The first at the Buf 38. The 2nd for keller at the Jets 43, the 3rd at the Bills 26 , 4th Bills 22 and last Bills 39.

    The only pick that resulted in a short field was teh 2nd to Keller. All the others , the Bills started inside their own 40 or worse. I'll contend even if we played conseratively and played for field position that with the Wind there's no guarentee a punt would have given Buffalo any worse field position in all but 1 instance.

    Bottom line is we needed more points to ice this game away - we just didn't execute to get them.
     
  16. Red Menace

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    Big, you are smart guy, I think what their point is even if you have to go three and out and punt the ball to their 10 they don't have the team to march down the field, the bills make enough mistakes to lose games.
     
  17. bigmehl

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    But what's the guarentee a punt in windy conditions would hem them in . My post above shows that only one of Sanchez ints gave the Bills the ball in Jet territory. In essence some of those ints may have been just as effective as a punt.
     
  18. Italian Seafood

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    You still have to play the game. Put the ball in your pocket up 10 in the NFL and fans would be screaming that Ryan got conservative, played scared, has no balls, etc. It's always easy to say after you lose the game, as biggs pointed out they had a nice drive mixing run and pass to open the OT. Then we take a holding penalty and drop the snap on the FG so now everyone wants to blame the play calling.
     
  19. fenwyr

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    Any fan screaming that they took the air out of the ball while nursing a lead against a terrible team...

    ...Really just doesn't know all that much about football.
     
  20. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    You know why good teams lose to bad teams all the time in the NFL? They let them hang around to long.
     
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