Preface: This is NOT the reason the Jets lost the game. But the non-call on Henne's Intentional Grounding on 2nd and goal was ridiculous. Especially when you consider the earlier grounding call on Sanchez which was less egregious. Fasano was on the ground, inside the tackle box, and the ball sailed 5 yards out of bounds. What exactly is the rule for intentional grounding? Thoughts?
It was definitely a BS call. As was the Edwards non-TD call. But the officials also gift-wrapped that pass interference call for us, so it's hard to complain.
jesus.... henne actually threw to the line of scrimmage unlike sanchez' pass which was at least 10 yards away from anyone and even further away from the line of scrimmage.
Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, while out of the pocket and facing an imminent loss of yardage, throws a pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including if the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or end line).
Did you sign up today just to gloat?? Act like you've won before and have a wee bit of class. It was Intentional grounding, end of story.
haha, you can't be serious about the "class" thing...that's the last thing i see on this board and from jet trollers on miami's board. at least i'm backing up what i say. look, anyone can see henne was outside the box and threw to the line of scrimmage- not grounding sanchez was 2/3 into a sack and tried to get rid of the ball by throwing it out of bounds - total grounding to answer your previous question, yeah, i miss marino and the days of running an offense that depended on more traditional plays, sure... you can argue that miami's offense was a gimmick back then too, though...i mean it never had a running game and was mostly a creative passing team. nfl teams use the star players on their team the best they can and run plays they feel can get them most yards. miami chose the wildcat which is actually an old formation....it's working, why stop? jets ran TWO fake punts, a gimmick, and it worked...i bet you guys weren't angry that ryan called those plays and accused your team of running gimmicky plays.
That wasn't really gloating, more explaining a rule that you don't like. Honestly, it probably wasn't intentional grounding. I'm not entirely sure if the rule is between the tackles or outside the hash marks, but I think he was out of the pocket when he threw it. If he wasn't, then it should have been grounding. The one play that pissed me off was when Ronnie Brown's knee clearly hit the ground before he could throw the ball away. It should have been a 3rd and 10 or 11 instead of a 3rd and 6, and they ended up picking up the first down. Ryan should have challenged it. I said it at the time, and it cost them.
my opinions on the 2 intentional grounding discussions. sanchez: was trying to throw to a reciever, so it is a questionable call. consider the fact that he was being sacked i'm sure swayed the jury so to speak. henne: outside the tackles, not grounding. period. who am i? nobody, just like you. this is my opintion and i'm stickin' to it.
You make a great point, I don't care about the non call, but the fact that they called Sanchez on it earlier, and there was a least a receiver in the general area makes the non call BS.
doesn't really matter. jets d failed to make plays. they could have stopped the td but guys were arm tackling. rex should have called the tos too, but the BL is that the jets D failed to make plays. Good news: is that we get to pay the fins back in 2 weeks i believe.
The rule is between the tackles. It was definitely intentional grounding. There was NO ONE even near where he threw that ball unlike the Sanchez call. Watch the replay and youll see what i mean. Terrible call.
I was referencing other posts, made about the Wild Cat. "Wild Cat Rocks" Or something like that. I'm just pissed that we have to wait 3 weeks for the rematch. and to ZOR, I went to finheaven and gave my congrats. I doubt you'd be on here today if you guys lost.
To be honest, I'm not sure what the ruling is when the pocket moves. Henne was technically still inside the tackles, but the tackles had shifted on a designed play. I don't know how the ruling applies, but if that's by rule intentional grounding, it sucks. Anyone think the Dolphins would have converted 3rd and 12 into the EZ?
Did you read the explanation of the rule? Henne was outside the tackle, therefore out of the pocket. When you are outside the tackles, you are allowed to throw it away intentionally. Sanchez was in the pocket and clearly trying to avoid a sack. However, I do think the call should have been in the grasp and the Jets should not have lost the down with IG.
Okay, I'll try..... Can you send me your rule book. If Mark's was Henne's was, I'm going on the officiating of last night. Learn to read between the lines.
