The Wildcat?

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  1. Jet Blue

    Jet Blue New Member

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    While I agree, I think the element of surprise in the whole Miami team, not just the Wildcat was a factor.. I don't even think many people thought Ronnie Brown would look so good coming off injuries...

    I also think the schedule worked out nice, "When" they played teams.

    I won't argue that they definitely Whipped our Butts in the coaching department last year... I also think we upgraded in that dept.

    The last thing to do Vs Chad Pennington is play read and react and not blitz... Thank you Mangenius...
     
  2. Jetzz

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    Spot on... you use what works. It's the other teams job to stop you. Calling it a gimmick is partly a cop out for not having been able to stop someone from using it.

    That New England - Miami game last year has to be one of my favorites from last season. I hate Miami, but it was hilarious to watch the Pats get blown out like that. :beer:
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Chad didn't kill us, favre did. We lost by 7 and he threw an INT for a TD in addition to 2 other INTs(one near midfield and one 1st and 10 at the Miami 29) and that inspiring pre-game speech.
     
  4. Italian Seafood

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    Same here. Also, at the time we had a home loss to New England we needed to make up in the division and a win at Miami in the bank, so the result was helpful to the Jets. Had we not shit the bed at the end, that game was a vital piece of us winning the division.
     
  5. BLITZKRIEG

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    Ancient history....
     
  6. BLITZKRIEG

    BLITZKRIEG New Member

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    Now there's an intelligent / logical response....

    Looking at our schedule, you could be right. Miami is still a franchise that is under reconstruction, and repeating as division winners will certainly be a much more difficult task in 2009. I'm not expecting 11 wins....

    Who wouldn't be excited?? You mean to tell me that you wouldn't be excited after having Parcells join your franchise, and then help get you from 1-15 to 11-5 in one off-season??...

    I can't speak for every Phinz fan out there, but I'm certainly restraining myself heading into this season. Our team is still rebuilding, and we're only entering year 2 of that rebuild....

    We will, thanks. Enjoy Sanchez. His 16 games of college experience should go a long way in helping him adapt / make the transition to the NFL....
     
  7. ReservoirDog76

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    I don't wanna read through all these posts but didn't we use the "Wildcat" in like 2003 with LaMont?
     
  8. Italian Seafood

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    I don't remember that. I remember we let him throw a halfback option pass one game when Chad was out and Ed Reed took it back something like 108 yards.
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    We used w/ Vinny and Lamont as far back as 2001. The lamont pass vs. Bal he didn't take the snap.
     
  10. Jetzz

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    Oh, what could have been... :mad: Still painful to think of how we collapsed after stealing a win against Tenn, and then New England in their backyard. That was another fave of mine last year, mostly because I finally went to a Pats-Jets game in Gillette.
     
  11. Jet Blue

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    LOL.. There's like 2 pages of Pennington posts with you ripping him....


    Just stop it - we all know Chad's plusses and minusses... I look forward to Rex Vs Chad.
     
  12. Graytness

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    I don't think people fully understand what the "Wildcat" is. It's more than simply a direct snap to a RB / WR or a shotgun option attack. The Jets have not run the "Wildcat" with Brad Smith. They have not run it with LaMont Jordan. It's a variation on single wing football. To my memory, we've never had a single wing package. Even the Dolphins "Wildcat" is a very scaled down version of the single wing offense.
     
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    Don't worry about Sanchez/Clemens, you guys got TJ, Leon, Greene, and that nasty o-line running up your wack d-line, not worried at this point hahah
     
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    haha i loved it when Miami's wildcat offense destroyed the Patriots that one game....I don't like either team, but to see the almost undefeated patriots get spanked by a team that was 1-15 the year before was awesome!
     
  15. CJLang

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    Gimmicks inherently succeed for a short while then die out. By the end of the year, the wildcat was hardly successful. The Ravens stuffed it, the Pats stuffed it 2nd time around....
     
  16. xeticus

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    One other thing about the Wildcat. Last year we had lots of offensive problems. We couldn't get the ball deep last year, we weren't running as effective as we needed, We didn't convert as many 3rd downs and we had red zone problems. We needed the Wildcat to open things up. The Dolphins needed something like the Wildcat to get other teams on the wrong foot.

    I don't think Jets fans realize exactly how bad Miami's coaching and drafting had been in recent years. After Jimmy Johnson left his buddy Dave Wannstedt took over. Each year his teams did a little worse. At the end of his tenure the Dolphins were pathetic. Nick Saban took over and had a decent draft but he bailed . And Cam Cameron. Well he was worse than Mangini on his worst day. Passing on Brady Quinn, drafting Ted Ginn who was raw and gimpy when drafted and picking up his QB in the future in John Beck.

    The Dolphins were lacking in talent especially on the offensive side of the ball. The Wildcat was a desperation move that worked. But it did work. Parcells and company smell an opportunity there. They've upgraded their offense and have another year of coaching this team under their belts. The Dolphins are going to run the Wildcat. They're letting other teams know and daring them to stop it. Some teams will get burnt by it. Some teams will adjust but it's not going away this year and if the Dolphins do well with it you'll see it more and more around the league.
     
  17. hammernnails

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    Common' Chad Pennington was made of metal when he played here... his bones made of titanium and his flesh of tyveck.... why would you just assume that he was going to get hurt at some point in Miami??????
     
  18. hammernnails

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    Ding Ding Ding!!! We have a winner!!! That is exactly correct. The name is the only thing new...
     
  19. Jetzz

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    Same can be said of just about any play in the playbook that is successful. Eventually you have to change things up and do something... unexpected.
     
  20. Jetzz

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    Call me crazy, but I would say it is safe to say he may never get injured again simply because he's no longer a NY Jet Quarterback. We seem to have some kind of black cloud over this organization where our QBs are concerned.
     

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