Kellen or Brett Don't want to trade away picks if anything want to get more later round ones. IF we get another QB Id be fine with trading down in the 1st grabbing another 3rd and then trading one of the 3's to Washington for Campbell. Saw in another thread he was possible trade bait. I think hes a more athletic Pennington.
Kellen or Brett without a doubt. However Cimini posted that Quinn could be had for 2nd, and I'm sure i heard that it could be a 3rd plus Brad Smith. So if we can get Quinn for a 3rd and Brad Smith, i probably do that, otherwise, lets stick with the guys we have. I can't wait for Saturday to be over to get rid of this Mark Sanchez love.
Clemens or Ratliff. They are already two or three years into the process a draft pick would just be beginning, at some point it's time to put a guy in the game and let him play. We have two chances at it, let's see if one of them can play.
I agree with this, but also wouldn't mind us moving up and taking Sanchez. Even if one of these guys works out, it's not a bad thing to have a solid guy waiting in the wings. Crazy things happen in the NFL. If Sanchez and one of the current guys turn out to be solid, we can trade one of them and get a 1st round pick (or more) back. Worse things have happened.
I'm not in favor of trading up for Sanchez, but if they do actually do it I agree with your logic here of why it wouldn't necessarily complicate things this year. For some reason it seems like a lot of folks here have this idea that Sanchez would just swoop in and take over the reigns without any questions about it. Not only would it be highly unlikely that he would start, I think it would be highly unlikely that he would even be inserted into the competition for the starting job this season. As many people have pointed out, there aren't enough reps in practice to give 3 different guys a legit chance. If they really think he's a great prospect and do take him then I agree, either he eventually becomes the starter in a future season or we have a hot commodity to trade. That is if he turns out to be that good of course.
In our current situation I want a QB we can develop rather than bring in a Leftwich or Garcia type. So yes, I guess.
If we just had one young guy I'd be more into it instead of putting all of our eggs into say Clemens, but since we have two guys who have put their time in, I have to think one of them can play. I agree it's good to have a young guy waiting in the wings, but we have two guys that have been doing that and only one can play, so we'll still have another understudy still on the team. To me we need to use our top pick on a guy who can get on the field and play this year, we still have a lot of veterans and still are about winning, not rebuilding. To use a top pick on a guy who will likely be the #3 QB and holding a clipboard all year is a disservice to the team.
There are no guarantees any of the guys we have now will work out though. While they all have experience in the system and are in a great situation to flourish, they all have warts. Clemens aside from some flashes looked poor in his starts, Ratliff was an UDFA who only got the starting job in college because of an injury, and Ainge was a 5th round pick who was inconsistent in college. My point is that it's not like we have a blue chip prospect on our bench right now. While it may be a disservice to this years team to pickup a potential future QB, the draft isn't just about this year. In the salary cap era 1st round picks are expected to start right away a lot more often than previously but you still have to look at the draft from a long term perspective as well as the "this years team" perspective. Of course, giving up picks does tend to damage the long term outlook ... There are also no guarantees that a draftee at a different position will contribute this year - see 2008 #6 overall. I wouldn't mind picking up an immediate starter either, but I don't see a problem with going after someone we see as a blue chip potential starting QB.
But is there really a blue chip potential starting QB in this draft or is it all becoming pre draft hype. Honestly I see no QBs that I was excited about until the hype machine started.
But as you said, there are no guarantees. So we could give up picks, which hurts the future, draft a guy who doesn't help, which hurts the present, and still have him turn out to be a bust. That's how teams set themselves back years. Just because you take a guy in the first round doesn't mean he is a blue chip prospect or that he's going to be any good. Again, if he was there when we draft and we needed a future guy I'd be more into it, but we're set with young guys that need a chance. If you draft a good player that can help the guys we have this year, it benefits everyone and we don't give up anything.
I have no idea. I don't follow college football enough to make an educated opinion. If the Jets brass feels he's good enough to move up for I trust them. They (Tanny not Bradway) have been very successful when identifying players worthy of moving up for so far. That's a fair point. As I said above though, I trust Tanny when he decides a player is worthy of trading up for. It's a crap shoot - there is a lot of credence to staying put and stockpiling picks. I can't disagree with that philosophy.
