In dealing with the NFL-PA v NFL case. I can't discuss specifics because I can lose my job, however Chatman got a raw deal. What he and the Williams from the Vikings, got suspended for (the use of a diuretic product StarCaps), were arbitrarily enforced. Chatman was unfortunately the one to be made an example of because up until then the NFL knew about the presence of the substance in tests however never enforced it until 2008. The diuretic is said to mask steroid use however, out of all the tests conducted 0% of people with the compound found in StarCaps tested postitive for steroids. Thought this was interesting, I'll discuss more later when I am out of work.
If it masked steroids then how the hell would anyone test positive for steroids when using the substance?
Chatman was looking pretty good before all that shit happened. Too bad he didn't work out with us. We could use him.
It doesn't mask steroids itself...it's a theory. The more you piss, the more you flush your system thus the faster the shit clears up in a piss test. But no scientific studies have been confirmed.
I don't know how you can be so sure of that. He was trying to lose weight at the time of use. I asked because it sounds silly to say the substance is used to mask steroids and in the same paragraph state that no one who tested positive for the substance tested positive for steroids. Of course they wouldn't ...
if its used to mask steroids by making you urinate more and flushing it out of your system faster, and he tested negative for steroids in a more legit test, he probably smokes weed and needs that to be covered up. besides covering up something, why else would an nfl player use a diuretic?
I believe Chatman had documented weight issues before that time, I'm not sure how you can make a concrete judgment on him like that.
The diuretic could've been used to mask something like Ephedra. It's not a legal substance in the U.S., (not sure how it's viewed by the league, but I'm sure it's got unfavorable support) and it's great for losing weight. Maybe that's how someone can make the argument that just because a player is using a diuretic, doesn't mean he's taking steroids.
There are other, more effective, ways of losing weight other than using a diuretic. He was obviously using something that he was trying to cover up by taking a diuretic. Using diuretics to lose weight can be very unhealthy, and makes your body lose mostly water weight and not fat. He was on record saying he "never heard of a diuretic" so I'm pretty sure he wasn't using them to get his weight under control, because you would need to take them pretty regularly in order to see significant weight loss. And when you lose weight from diuretics, you are losing mostly body fluids. When you are depriving your body of fluids for extended periods of time, you would see a loss in muscle mass. He was using some sort of substance, most likely steroids, and using the diuretic to flush his system out. Steroids can also account for him losing fat and getting in shape. Yes, I know he never tested positive for steroids, but NFL athletes don't use diuretics for any other reason than to cover drug tests. I'm not saying he definitely used steroids, but he was using some substance that is illegal to use in the NFL that he was trying to mask
You could be right, but the situation doesn't seem as cut and dry to me, I used diuretics plenty of times to cut weight when I was an athlete, the fact that it isn't healthy doesn't mean much most times. None of it is healthy, whether it be HGH, steroids, narcotics, 5 hour energy, whathaveyou. I really don't give much of a hoot about players using steroids. Smashing your self head-first into another guy's chest isn't exactly therapeutic in itself.
99% of all nfl players who test positive for illegal substances are known to be users of ketchup and mustard. clearly there is a connection. something should and must be done.
i hope every single one of you gets forced to take random drug tests at your work in the near future.
Basic rule of analysis: correlation and relationships are not enough to prove cause. Just because he was taking a substance that could be used to mask steroid use does not mean he was taking that substance for the purpose of steroid use, especially not when that substance is a diuretic that helps with weight loss. Take into account the fact that, just prior to his stint with the Dolphins, the best way to describe Jesse Chatman was the phrase "ate his way out of the league," it isn't too too difficult to see that maybe he was using the pills to lose weight. On the other hand... So you're saying it worked?
