The jets are in desperate need of a qb. How is this team going to rebuild without a top qb? I don't like Cutler and think Young is too much of a running qb. Leinart is the closest to a ready NFL qb in years. I can't believe that we are even thinking of not taking him if he is there at #4.
I disagree that the Jets are in desperate need of a QB. They have two first round QB's on the roster already, and Bollinger proved last season that he can be servicable backup. Why are you dismissing Ramsey without even giving him a chance? Perhaps a change of scenary and a new offensive system are exactly what he needs to bring out his full potential. He is young and has the physical tools to be a successful QB. I have seen nothing in Leinart that tells me he will definitely be a better QB than Ramsey. Why are you automatically assuming that Leinart is a top QB?
I don't think the Jets are opposed to Leinart, it's just that they're not interested on the 4 pick. If they traded down to the 7 and the Raiders took Cutler (not going to happen but it's a what-if) and Leinart was there on the 7 the Jets might bite. And on the 7 he might be worth it. They'd probably still take Ferguson but you never know.
Well Ramsey has done nothing to show that he is an NFL qb. He sucked in Washington and Pennington is shot. Bollinger is exactly what you said a servicable backup so we definately are still in need of a qb. Of course there is no way of knowing for sure how good Leinart will be but that is always the case with a draft pick. We need to take a chance and hope he will be great because we have nothing else
To invest the 4th pick for a QB means you have invested 100 million dollars to two players playing the same position and who might be watching the game from the sidelines this fall...
Pennington is done. Forget about him. His money is already spent. You can not win in this league without a good qb and we definately don't have one right now
I would not take Leinart with 4 because in my opinion he is going to be a bust. He's had a past arm injury and I feel he was a product of the system. I just don't think he' going to be that phenominal and warrant the 4th overall pick.
Only reason i'm calling you out, is because you try to act like the biggest darksider on the board after a loss, trying to nitpick and act mad... Keep the act going though, gives us a good laugh. LEINART
Well then I guess we agree to disagree. You say that we have "nothing" at QB, but I beg to differ. Ramsey was not "horrible" at Washington. His numbers were actually decent, and he was never given a full shot at establishing himself. People are too quick to write off QB's who do not come in a dominate from the start. Just look at the Drew Brees situation. People were very quick to write him off as a bust, but look at him now. You say Chad is "shot", but I'll take the word of the doctors over whatever you think.
His past arm injury was arthritis or tendonitis or something. He had very minor out-patient surgury Not .really a threatening injury, he probably just had some discomfort.
I would curl into the fetile position if we pass on Leinart. If we trade down instead of taking him at 4 I will probably be ok with that, but taking Brick at 4 over Leinart would be crazy. Mario Williams at 4 instead of Leinart would be ok too...
I thought it was more serious then that. I remember people were questioning if Leinart would come out his junior year and part of his decision was that he did not want to come into the NFL on a bad team right after surgery. Still I just don't think he will pan out and I hope another team takes him before we pick or hope that we pass on him.
It's LEINART for crying out loud. This is as annoying as someone taking their nails to a blackboard for me when people mispell his freaking name. It's not like we haven't been talking about this guy for a while now or anything.:sad:
You have to take Lionheart :lol: might as well spell it like that after seeing the way other people kill it. Matt will be an excellent NFL QB regardless of what team he falls on, you all wait and see. If hes there at 4...... coooommmonnn. Leinart then Mangold and hopefully Carpenter in the 2nd is my dream draft.
Assuming that Leinart will be a good NFL QB (big assumption since as we know 1/2 of all 1st round QBs are busts) I think we have to take him. It is not a dis on CP or PR but they are both unknowns at this point. CP has health issues and PR was not very good for the skins. Not to say that he won't be good here, I hope he can be. The point is that in order to be a winner you need a good QB and we are not sure we have one yet. Is Lienart the solution? Maybe, maybe not (just like any draft pick) and maybe we end up with a situation like the Charges with Breese and Rivers, but I'd take that over not having a QB. Plus, it is not that often that you have a chance at the top QB in the draft. Point is, not having a QB make for rough going in the NFL. We should take him if he is there.
Why is that crazy if you have them both rated higher on your board then Leinart? I mean its crazy if you pass on D'Brick but ok if you draft Williams. Assuming they are equal on top of the Jets draft board I would be fine with either one.
All you "draft a RB" people need to realize that might be the least of our worries, you all seem to forget Blaylock is on the team and yes CURTIS MARTIN with a new revamped O-line. We all wanted to toss him to the streets then all of a sudden he gets the rushing title and people jusmp back on his balls... give the guy a break it was his first non 1,000 yard season.
Ok, where do I start? 1) I consider Ramsey a 6th rounder, because that's what he cost us. 2) Bollinger proved he should be out of the league, not a servicable backup. You have to be kidding if you think that. You haven't seen anything that says Leinart will definitely be better than Ramsey? Ramsey was a reach in round 1. Leinart has won national championships, and with the game on the line in one of the biggest of the year, he AUDIBLED to a fade pattern because he saw it was there and put the ball the ONLY PLACE it would have worked. That showed balls man.
