I read a very interesting article on this man on espn: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeffri&id=4047057 He was a possible first rounder at one point. He did have a terrible bowl game and after that his stock plummeted. I think this man is a huge steal personally. Just has a learning problem, but under our "run first Offense" he should be fine. If we can get him in the 5th or possibly 7th round I think he'd have a chance to compete/win. Thoughts on this guy?
for a 6th or 7th rounder, why not? The dude has an absolute cannon and definitely is a good athlete. Good article, a lot of stuff I didn't know about him. I did read an article a couple of weeks ago though that only one team showed up at his pro day, which must of really sucked for him. Seems like a good person, just not the type of quarterback I can personally see Rex Ryan even actually taking a chance on late in the draft if he can't grasp an NFL playbook. However, according to KFFL.com, they apparently met with Nate Davis today "I had eight classes when I was in the sixth grade and I came home with seven F's one semester," Davis said. "I did pass gym, though." You have to TRY to fail classes in 6th grade.
I don't care what kind of defense we employ. The Raiders have a run first offense, but if you can't make the reads you can't survive in the NFL. The kid has the physical ability, but I'm not putting him behind center. The QB needs to know the entire playbook and know everyone else's job as well. That's a huge task for anyone.
Who says he can't grasp a NFL playbook? He isn't in the NFL yet. No one knows that for sure.. Besides, a playbook is all visual/memory related anyway, so how is that a conflict with his disability? Seriously. Some people are ridiculous on this board. "Wow, he has some skills. Oh, wait, he has a disability, that automatically means he wont be able to read an NFL playbook, fuck him."
The way he has dropped is unfounded, he learns differently, but that doesn't mean he is not intelligent, he took that team to a 12-0 season, he is a good QB, not a top 2 rounder, but i would tak a punt on him in the late rounds, him or Rhett Bomar.
the playbook is visual. And he has a visual learning problem. Coverage schemes are visual too, and when the bullets start flying its gets really visual really fast. I'm not the GM to take a flyer on him.
I might of missed it when i just read that article (it is early), but where does it say he has a visual learning problem? I read that he reads slower (Not a problem), he has trouble with multisyllabic words (not a problem), and he needs to inprove his writing (Not a problem). Like i say if i missed it then i apologise but i didn't see anything about any visual problems.
"After performing a series of diagnostic tests, Sampson discovered a few key issues: Davis read at a slower rate than average students, struggled with multisyllabic words and needed to improve his writing skills." "I do have a disability, but it's not an issue in football," Davis said. "I just learn differently than other people. I'm more of a visual learner." Ya' know, sometimes it helps to completely read an article before trying to put in your two cents on an issue. Especially if you want to knock someone's intelligence.
i got it backwards... maybe i'm a little slow too. reading at a slower rate and struggling with multisyllabic words are not conducive to learning playbooks. The complexity of the NFL can hurt him. He's a QB, its the hardest transition to make for any college player, and he has this obstacle on top of that. His odds are completely against him.
His odds have always been against him, and he keeps being successful, why does reading at a slower rate effect his ability to learn a play-book, the majority will be diagrams anyway.
He was successful in college with that same learning disability. Granted the NFL is alot more complex, but his coach recruited Brady and says this kid has better pocket presence. If he is available for a late round pick, he might be worth a look. Taking a risk on longshots is sometimes worthwhile - one name comes to mind - Chrebet. Not big enough or fast enough to be in the NFL they said. Wrong.
if its a form of dyslexia I think he can be ok with his draft stock... but if it goes beyond that - its not looking good for the kid.
Obviously I don't know anything about the guy (apart from what's on here), but if he is a visual learner then this could be an advantage in so far as visual learners tend to like charts, diagrams, videos. So studying playbooks and videos of past matches would be good for this guy. I said in an introductory post that I'm optimistic, so I'm taking an optimistic view of this guy, too. He could be good.
I love rooting for the underdog, and only one team turning up to his pro day makes him a underdog. I like the look of him, and i don't think his learning disability will effect his ability to learn and run a pro play-book.
Or you have a learning disablility, which Davis does. That will be one thibng that could really hold him back. Learning an NFL play book and to read NFL defenses is as important as your physical skills. Davis will lag behind in these areas. He has all the physical tools in the world and may not be a bad choice as a developmental prospect late, but we already have 3 prospects in the making at QB. Do we need another?
Who was it that said you should draft a QB every year.....i actually can't remember but it was someone famous.
It was Bill Walsh, who himself did not draft a QB every year, but almost every year. He also had a tendency to get rid of his late round longer term projects very quickly. It may or may not be a bad thing. As of now the Jets have aquired 3 QB's in the last 3 years not counting Brad Smith. KC, Ratliff, and Ainge have all been in the NFL less then 4 seasons, its time to let that play out a little.
The major drawback with him is intelligence.. He would have to land in a pretty simple offense schematically.. I think he would be a great developmental guy to bring in anywhere from the late 3rd round and on, but not to New York.
