Vic Carucci article on the Jets QB situation

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  1. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Who said smokescreen?

    It could be that. It could be Ryan is trying a big fakeout. We'll know more about that after the draft. For sure.

    But I don't think it's too much to go out on a bit of a limb here and say I think the quotes from him on the QB situation reflect his real viewpoint. Here's some reasons why, other than the inherent plausibility of what he is saying:

    He's new in town. Is it really the right way to go for him to be so clearly and officially (I see no hint of any contrary backtalk being fed the reporters) found out to have been lying to everybody? That's a hard one to accept. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes and start right off the bat with the rep that he's playing all the reporters for fools. If he were telling them something else off the record, we would have heard of that by now.

    What he's saying is accepting the situation. There've been many discussions here of what other options there may be. Whether one agrees or not that there are no better options, if he thinks there aren't, there's no reason to be the HC here and bewail the fact. It fits with an overall assessment that there's no better way to go (again that follows whether or not one agrees with that assessment).

    We all assume there will be something of a division of labor where Ryan will be working most closely with the D, with Schott responsible for the O. Again I go back to thinking about what Schott must have said to Ryan when they first met about this situation - Schott HAD to have said that one of these guys will be at least adequate to be the starter. If that was said, as I believe it must have been, it would be undermining of Schott to have Ryan contradict that assessment. If it turns out to be wrong, no one will blame Ryan - everyone knows he's here first to revamp the D. If Schott fails the Jets can proceed accordingly.

    Add it up, and I think Ryan was saying what he thinks. He's not employing a smoke screen.
     
  2. brothermoose

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    Jesus man!
     
  3. brothermoose

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    I was under the impression the playbook was dumbed down for Sir Burt the douchey, not Kellen.

    Kellen (26) actually scored higher than Penny the Rhodes runner-up (25) on the Wonderlic.

    Do you have a link?
     
  4. Denny

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    Is it just me or am I the only one not worrying about the QB situation all of a sudden like in years past. I really think the JETS will be a run first team until the defense is set. The defense is not far off and will be the face of what happens here.

    Weather it be Clemens or Ratliff it doesnt matter really as long as the run game stays intact. And the short passing attack. Can it get better? Sure but defense is what wins championships. I think what we have is a solid run tandem. But see there's the catch.

    We are all worried about the QB's and really it's Mr. Jones we need to worry about. He needs to get his a$$ in camp and play ball. He is still under contract and I expect he will report. But his actions are going to affect the first pick. Do they panic and go RB or do they continue to build the defense. I would expect a defensive pick and finally get to see Clemens do something. This is probably his only legitimate shot. He's been in the system for a while and really I'm basing this on the Baltimore game but he did plenty there to spark the imagination. Without a run game it wont be pretty but as of right now this offense can move the ball. I say get Jones happy with an incentive based extension.

    Now if they do aquire Cutler that's another ball of wax.....
     
  5. GreenHornet

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    Yes, my son
     
  6. Big Blocker

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    Other than my usual off season off balance, hope mixed with bad memories, who knows what's really going on? Jet fan kind of thing, I'm not really worried, either.
     
  7. Royce Parker

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    No, you're definitely not the only one. I don't feel worried about the QB spot at all. Tanny/Rex and Co. have been making solid moves to build the D and I don't see anything to complain about up to this point. It's always tempting to want a flashy new addition at QB, but I'm much happier to see them creating stability and depth on D and on the O line before worrying about looking for the next big thing - that's how you create a team that stays solid year in year out, not with one magic bullet.

    If Rex says that our stable of QBs is sufficient going into the season, I'm not going to argue with that. If KC and BR get their shots this year and both fall flat, then it will be time to start thinking about a big move at QB. Until then..........:jets:
     
  8. GreenHornet

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    When you consider that KC and Ratliff are better then one "full of heart", Bollinger, and we still possess some very good weapons on offense, I will be quite content watching a grind it out, unspectacular offense, that makes few mistakes, but a defense that tries to inialate the opponenet on every play.
     
  9. gustoonarmy

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    Just spent the best part of an hour looking for it...can't find it.
    Basically it was from TC, and it stated that KC was having trouble with the 'complex' playbook and it had to be simplified for him.
     
  10. brothermoose

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    Sorry to put you to the trouble, but I really do remember that same quote as being directed towards Burt.

    Thanks for trying and responding though. If he really didn't have it down after 2 1/2 years, that really reduces his stature in my eyes.

    Maybe one of our research mavens could give a whirl? Please?
     
  11. WhiteShoeWillis

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    I'm pretty sure you're correct. They got rid of most of the quirky presnap motion and shifting when Brett came in. He didn't have much time to learn so they had to dumb it down.

    Schotty specifically praised Clemens for his intelligence in a recent interview and said a big advantage with starting him is that they can use the entire playbook.
     
  12. brothermoose

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    Thanks Willie
     
  13. Chrisp22

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    I see Rex as geniuine. Why would he repeatedly state the same thing over and over if he were to do the exact opposite? It would have been easier to give a generic answer and move away from the subject.

    Rex is not the GM. Mike T is. I would believe they will work together come draft day and already have a plan in place but the final say is Mike T's. Will he actually pass on a QB come draft day if one were to come available at pick 17?

    As we all have time to think about the needs of the team, don't you think it would be wise to pick a RB or WR with 17 instead? If they are willing let the QB situation play out, they will still need another RB and/or WR for the future. Both Leon and T. Jones are currently unhappy with their contracts.

    Also, as it has been stated, if a stud defensive player who fits the system is available at 17, why not make a play? I wouldn't mind at all.
     
  14. gustoonarmy

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    No I'm 100% sure this was pre-Burt.

    Lol , what else could he say really ? :wink: Hes our veteran QB....omg.
     
  15. ghostridergo

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    I think we are good with the QBs we have this season as long as they progress. But throwing in a veteran QB that doesn't mind taking the back seat to 2 or possibly 3 young QBs is fine with me (but I would rather have a young rookie as the 4th option if there is one).

    But I say if we are going to lose lets lose with the guys we have and build for next year veterans in any other position is ok. Just not at QB at least for this year. But I don't mind either or.
     
  16. SI_Jets_Fan

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    Kellen will press again this TC and start throwing INTs again. the more he throws the harder he will press and the more he will throw.

    Ratliff will look good, and Ainge will look great.

    Ainge spent 4 years at a top SEC school, and set a record for completion percentage. He is Penny with a good arm. The dark horse wins out and never looks back. :up:
     
  17. WhiteShoeWillis

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    Well he could have talked about anything when asked what he liked about each of the QB's. He didn't have to mention his intelligence or ability to use the whole playbook. I understand he's going to try and give praise to everyone but that's what he chose to point at. For Ratliff he discussed his size, arm and pocket awareness/ability to move around. I don't remember WTF he said about Ainge - I think something like "he has the least time in the system" - lol.
     
  18. al_toon_88

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    Would a rookie Sanchez outperform Kellen this year? I think not. If Sanchez is there and we get a nice offer, we should consider trading down.
     
  19. Chrisp22

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    Then he is not Pennington at all by that statement. If Penny had a good arm we would not be talking about the QB's today.
     
  20. EdBell

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    No on Cutler - he'll be too expensive (draft picks). I would've been okay drafting him a few years ago, but we don't want to mortgage the future.

    Just keep drafting defense. Impact players.

    Start Ratliff - he's Joe Flacco in waiting.

    See what you have with Stuckey and Clowney.

    Grab BPA in all rounds of the draft.

    Let Rex coach 'em up.

    'Nuff said.
     

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