He was also looking for a big payday and didn't fit the scheme. We got a second and a 5th for him and might have got a late 1st for him but I think with his contract expiring and him looking for a big payday that was about right.
At the time, Douglas, Aaron Glenn and Keyshawn seemed to be our blue-chip guys to build around. I was surprised when Parcells got rid of Douglas and not at all surprised when he was a good player for the Eagles.
It did help to get 20 picks a year back then. You had much better odds of getting a couple of gems every year.
I wasn't surprised Douglas was dealt as he was in Parcells' doghouse and that is sort of like a roach Motel(once you chec in you never check out) but the sad part was that the only real piece we lacked on his Ds was a pass rusher. we had a decent pass rush as a team but that was all scheme based, we needed someone to get after the QB and we had him but let him go.
Except now with 32 teams, even with seven rounds that doesn't leave a lot of quality free agents. The talent pool overall is much more diluted than in the 60s and being in New York--a key to landing Namath--is no advantage at all.
What Seafood is discounting is there were 25 teams back in the 60's and 32 now. We have had a huge growth in the population of people participating in competitive football on every level since the mid 60's. The talent pool is much greater today than it was in the 60's. There has been enormous growth in the last 10 years in participation at every level and since our population has gotten alot fatter we also have seen an increase in large athletic people participating in football.
A player who is superior to anyone the Jets have employed at his position over the past 15 seasons. From 1960-65, they were selecting against seven other teams (Boston, Buffalo, Denver, Houston, Kansas City, Oakland, and San Diego). In 1966, they selected against eight other teams when Miami joined the AFL as an expansion team.
Joe Klecko is the best Jet's player of the last 30 years. Nobody else had the impact he had on the team in that time span. Marvin Powell and Curtis Martin would probably be the next two guys on the list.
Well, I can't seem to find anyone who agrees with me so I'll have to conclude my memory is faulty until new data arrives. Maybe I'll do some research when the feeling hits me. I'd try to find an article addressing the lack of proficiency in Powell's play early in his career. Also, regarding pro-bowls, let's continue this discussion in a different vain--who were the elite LT's and RT's at the time? This could explain why Ward did not get many, if any, pro-bowls.
I haven't gotten to the Ward vs Powell debate part of this thread yet. Quickly though- Powell was better. I'll read the posts on that whole bit later tonight. As for your question there, Powell was the Jets regular starter at RT from 1977-85. The other top tackles in the league in those years (going in chronological order) were Art Shell, Dan Dierdorf, Ron Yary, George Kunz, Leon Gray, Russ Washington, Doug France, Jon Kolb, Pat Donovan, Jerry Sisemore, Mike Kenn, Doug Dieken, Anthony Munoz, Keith Dorney, Chris Ward, Greg Koch, Jackie Slater, Cody Risien, Brian Holloway, Keith Fahnhorst, Joe Jacoby, Bill Bain, Luis Sharpe, Jimbo Covert, Chris Hinton, and Jim Lachey. Powell was a 1st team All-Pro in 1979 (other tackle was Gray), 1981 (other tackle was Munoz), and 1982 (other tackle was Munoz). Powell was a 2nd-team All Pro in '80 and got some All-Pro recognition in '83. In other words, he played at an All-Pro level five different seasons. Ward only received All Pro recognition in 1981. He made the United Press International 2nd team All Pro squad. That organization selected four tackles to their 1st team (Powell, Munoz, Kenn, Dorney) and four to their second team (Ward, Donovan, Gray, Sisemore). As for Pro Bowls, Chris Ward never made one. Powell made five.
^Well, that's that. Thanks Cakes. Since Powell made 1st team in 1979, I'm obviously mistaken about his lack of proficiency early in his career. Mea culpa.
OK then why not U explaining to all of us what did the NYJs acheive in the 70s, 80s, 90s & the 00s up to now. The NYJ history books if U opened it up & read it would show the following 60s 1 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 70s NOTHING 80s NOTHING 90S NOTHING 00s NOTHING up to now
Captain Obvious strikes again! Well done, champ. The thing is, most of us weren't around, so we come here and discuss the Jets we remember and everything in that context. I'm sure none of us have ever heard about how cool the 60s were, so we need more old coots to tell us about it. Good thing you're here. :up:
