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  1. kelly

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    MMQB Mail: Bucs, Jets make most sense if Broncos opt to trade Cutler
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    Hold off on the Jay Cutler trade talk -- for now. A source close to one team that has inquired with the Broncos about the unhappy quarterback tells me the Broncos have told them they're hanging on to Cutler and won't entertain discussions for him at this time.That's a natural thing for the Broncos to say. They can't give Cutler or his agent, Bus Cook, a shred of evidence that they want to move him until coach Josh McDaniels is convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt the relationship with Cutler is not fixable. But it's probably more likely than unlikely the Broncos will find the situation can't be remedied, in my opinion. So I do expect Denver's tune to change sometime between now and the April 25 draft, and I do expect Cutler to be traded.

    I expect the usual suspects to line up for Cutler -- Detroit, Cleveland, San Francisco, Tennessee and perhaps Carolina, though the Panthers, without a first-round pick in the 2009 draft, will be at a severe disadvantage. But I don't think he'll end up in one of those spots unless Detroit offers the 20th and 33rd picks of the draft, and a player sweetener, straight up for him.

    I expect the most fervent suitors to be Tampa Bay and the New York :)Jets.

    The Broncos pick 12th in the first round, right in the wheelhouse for a draft expected to be full of very good first-round prospects because of the influx of so many good juniors; I'm told that this draft could produce as many as 20 junior-eligible players drafted in the first round. Tampa Bay picks 19th in the first round. The Jets pick 17th.Those teams know that acquiring Cutler, if he's dealt, will require that first-round pick, plus more. I think both teams would pay more. For the record, Tampa Bay has traded its second-round pick in the deal for Kellen Winslow, and so has only the 19th and 81st overall picks in the first three rounds. The Bucs may well have to involve a high 2010 draft choice to get a deal done. The Jets hold the 17th, 52nd and 76th picks in the first three rounds, much better ammo to get something done.

    The Bucs are veterans in the chase for Cutler, having pursued him the day before free-agency began, dangling their first-round pick plus something in a package for Cutler. They also have an offensive scheme under new coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski that resembles the system Mike Shanahan ran in Denver, and a defensive coordinator, Jim Bates, who's the father of Cutler's offensive coordinator last year in Denver, Jeremy Bates. Cutler and Jeremy Bates were close, and those close to Cutler believe the Broncos' decision to not retain Bates is a part of his dissatisfaction.

    The :)Jets proved last year they'll stop at nothing to get what they want. What they wanted last year was Brett Favre, who turned out to be a one-year fix that cost New York its third-round pick in the 2009 draft. What they'll want this year would be, they hope, a 10-year fix, and would cost far, far more. Owner Woody Johnson and GM Mike Tannenbaum will not be intimidated by the price for Cutler. I think New York, at the end of the day, will be tempted to pay more for Cutler than anyone else.

    Would Denver be swayed by a package of first- and second-round picks, plus either of the young New York quarterbacks -- Brett Ratliff or Kellen Clemens? I believe it may come to that.But first, you can bet McDaniels will do everything in his power to sit down alone with Cutler sometime in the next couple of weeks. If that happens, he might be able to save the relationship. But I don't think so.

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  2. Keeper1125

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    I can only hope.
     
  3. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    I hope not, for one.
     
  4. Keeper1125

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    I would expect nothing less from a regular on this forum.
     
  5. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Glad to meet your expectation.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    All of your posts suck. I'm glad you hate this forum.
     
  7. Docny1975

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    ugh another thread about cutler I hope he tears his achilles playing basketball or something that way all this trade talk goes away. He's a gunslinger not a game manager which something I believe we are looking for. Plus he's a primadona that does not have a lot of fans in his own locker room.
     
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    Pretty exciting to think about the possibility of getting a QB that is a known threat. The only thing that scares me about next season if we end up with Clemens or Ratliff is the hurt our running game is going to feel constantly until one of them prove they can do more than hand off the ball in games. I think Cutler really wants to get out of Denver and all this media coverage is inflating the situation exactly how him and his agent want it to.
    I hope he looks at the Jets and sees an elite defense, an offense that performed excellent given they had an interception machine at QB and are now left with young unproven quarterbacks, the insane attention of the New York media, and Rex Ryan. He leaves behind a pretty clueless new coach and one of the worst performing defenses of the 08 season.
    I'm pretty much for giving Denver whatever they want as long as we don't lose any key players on defense. Draft a wide receiver, running back, defense end, depth on the lines and this could be the most exciting Jets season I have been alive for.
     
  9. agrich

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    Tough to be a game manager when your defense is giving up 30 points per game, like Denver's did last year.

    As for being a prima donna, it's interesting that all this stuff only comes out when the Broncos look like a bunch of fools. Makes me think they're the ones putting it out there. In any case, nobody in Denver cared about John Elway being a prima donna when he forced the Colts to trade him to Denver, something that worked out fairly well for the Broncos.
     
  10. Br4d

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    Cutler was the 16th ranked QB in the NFL by QB rating and his offense scored the 16th most points. This in his third season in the league with a a good offensive line in front of him and an offensive system that previously (before he arrived) was very good at promoting nobody backs to temporary star status.

    He's not even a particularly good QB just one who LOOKS good on the field. That's what got him drafted in the first round despite his college team sucking all around him and it's what has made him seem valuable in the NFL despite his pro team declining all around him.

    Teams do not draft franchise QB's in the first round and then go stagnant for three years straight costing their 13 year coach his job. It just does not happen. There's nothing wrong with Shanahan that passing on Cutler and sticking with Jake Plummer until a real franchise QB came along would not have fixed.
     
  11. Gunther

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    I know you aren't serious
    This sounds of pure bias
    If you were trying to make a case, I think you failed miserably
     
  12. Harpua

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    Quit playing coy. How do you really feel. :lol:
     
  13. Green Lantern

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    Will the Cutler speculation threads rise in numbers greater than last year's Favre speculation threads?
    Me thinks so. Favre entered the radar in July and it's only March!
    (For the record-I don't want Cutler. You can't say he's better than what we have until we actually SEE what we have.)
     
  14. Jets n Boys

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    What the hell lady??? Do you HAVE to create a NEW Cutler thread every freakin day now??? This shit is already posted in the other Cutler thread anyways...
     
  15. Carpetbagger

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    This is the first time that I have seen the Jets are real contenders for Cutler.

    Are we a qb away for a championship caliber team? I believe so. Make the trade.
     
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    If Kelly doesn't stop, Cutler threads will even exceed Chad vs. Kellen threads that went on for almost three years.
     
  17. ace_o_spades

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    If we do make a trade for him I just hope we have a day one pick left this year
     
  18. Jets n Boys

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    And a thread...(As per Kelly Washington)
     
  19. Green Lantern

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    Those debates could still go on because I still back Chad!
     
  20. tom spicer

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    You are kidding right? Cause if not I have a book for you it is called football 101 read it the guy is a franchise QB. Boomer who knows just a little bit about football said the Jets HAVE to look into this guy he said this for a reason.
     

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