Schottenheimer's view on QB's

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  1. Mambo9

    Mambo9 Well-Known Member

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    http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/multimedia/

    If you look ont the right menu the third video is an interview to OC Schottenheimer who breaks down the QB situation.
    In short:

    Clemens: Experience, Very quick Release, Ability to beat the blitz, Very Bright and can learn a lot of offense.

    Ratliff: Very strong arm, Instinctive way of moving in the pocket

    Ainge: Commitment, Picked up system fast

    Do you think you already have your starting QB on the roster?
    Schotty: "Yes, I think no fooball team has better youth than us on QB"
     
  2. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    yeah, because its hard for teams to be sold on two rookies and a 4th year veteran who is seen as a rookie as the depth chart for QB... for an OL/DL it can be good, but not at signal caller. Even drafting a kid, which i'm a proponent of, doesn't help this situation.

    Somebody better work out well this year, or this place is going to go nuts over the QB position like it does every year.
     
  3. section134

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    schotty says we have the best youth at qb

    does he mean we are better than matt ryan in atlanta or joe flacco in baltimore??????????????

    he has to be kidding
     
  4. Mambo9

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    What he meant is that we have the wider choice of good young QB's... too bad they can only play one at the time
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I think what he means is that we don't have a QB with any experience at all anywhere to be found and no other team in the NFL is as pathetic as we are in that.
     
  6. NDmick

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    winner.

    the Jets have the worst QB situation in the NFL
     
  7. JohnnyJohnson

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    I think it would have been awesome if he would have said "man, these guys suck. I'm just here for the pay"

    At least it would have been honest.
     
  8. Hemi

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    Being that he is an NFL coach and we are not, I would take his word over this message board.
     
  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Why and what is his word? What he tells some hack carrying a notepad and what he tells Ryan are probably two totally different things. Think about it. There isn't a coach at any level in football who would be happy they don't have a single QB with any worthwhile game experience.
     
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    Clemens with a quick release and ability to beat the blitz? What the fuck? All he does is hold onto the ball until hes sacked.
     
  11. Br4d

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    Clemens upside is probably Jake Plummer. Which would be an ok QB for us for awhile, although not enough to get us to a Super Bowl without a top 5 defense. Ratliff's upside is unknown at this point. There's just no way to quantify what he could do until we've seen him in action against live competition. Ainge is probably a journeyman backup QB at best.

    It's no disaster if the Jets go into the season with those three as the options at QB. We're probably still looking for our QB long-term but we're not wasting a lot of time doing it if we spend a year looking at our young guys and seeing what they can do.

    We'd be much better off going and finding a franchise QB if that was an option, however other than Sanchez and maybe Stafford there really aren't potential franchise QB's out there to go get at this point. Cutler is talented but lacking in leadership and Vince Young is a head case.
     
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    Clemens repeatedly beat the blitz in his trial in 2007. He didn't complete enough passes to make the quick release of real value but he did get the ball out and usually not into an opponent's hands.

    The TD to Chris Baker against the Ravens came with a defensive back literally sitting on his ear and leveling him after the ball was out.
     
  13. J-Kay

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    The way our team is set up we don't need a franchise QB, at least not right away. We need a guy to manage the game. Bringing a rookie to me (especially in this atrocious class) is just another guy without experience. Leftwich or nothing really.
     
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    Whenever he was given time he held onto the ball way too long. I realize how bad the OL was, but he took a lot of unnecessary sacks.
     
  15. Br4d

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    The Jets have had only one non-game manager at QB since Boomer Esiason, that being Vinny from 98-01. He's also the only guy to get the Jets to an AFC Championship game in that span. No coincidence there.

    Game managers get buried by great defenses who will not allow a game to be managed against them.
     
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    But it has potential to be good or bad. We just don't know yet. I think they have the most UNCERTAIN QB situation. But I can easily see Clemens or Ratliff emerging and playing better than the quarterbacks in Miami, Buffalo, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Oakland, Kansas City (I am not convinced about Matt Cassell), Detroit, Chicago (who is in a worse situation than the Jets today), Minnesota, Tampa (also worse today), seattle (if Hasselback isn't healthy), St. Louis and San Francisco.

    They could also end up being a disaster. I think the fun of this will be seeing how it all plays out. The quarterbacks that were/are available this off season wouldn't have significantly upgraded the position, so I don't understand what people wanted the Jets to do. They can argue that Matt Cassel was the gjuy, but there was never any chance Belicheck was trading him to the Jets. Personally, I am not that high on Stafford and I don't like Sanchez at all. Stafford has the arm. Sanchez' is "adequate" and that is not good enough.

    I am hoping Cutler shakes loose from Denver and we have the best deal available for the Broncos.
     
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    Why does everyone say we have no experience at QB? Clemens has real NFL regular season experience. He may not have performed as flawless as all of you "positive" posters may have liked but he was raw, and did what he could with the shitty O-line he had. He beat out Pennington to get those starts for a reason. Maybe those reasons will show up this year. Every fan wants to see his team succeed, but you have to roll with the punches. Schotty has football in his blood, and probably still asks his dad for advice. Lets just see if he is full of shit, or right on the money. If we had signed a vet QB, we would have missed the boat on another hole to fill. We are obviously going to be run oriented this year, so a stud QB may not be totally necessary yet.
     
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    Ok, give us examples of plays in which you came up with this. Plus list the coverage and down and distance in which the instances happened.
     
  19. Br4d

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    Any team that had a weakside pass rush was a threat to sack Clemens (or any Jets QB that year). People forget how much of a turnstile Adrien Clarke really was. They forget how isolated the island that D'Brick found himself on that year really was. Brett Favre would have gotten sacked 50 times behind that line. Clemens mobility saved a lot of sacks, although by the end of the year that's mainly what he was doing back there, dropping back and scrambling immediately.

    That was the worst Jet's offensive line and pass protection scheme I have ever seen and I've seen a few doozies in my time, particularly in the late 70's when Todd and Robinson were scrambling for their lives on almost every snap.

    To suggest that Clemens holds the ball too long based on a season in which the offensive line was so porous and his key receivers injured or hurting as much as they were is a real stretch.
     
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    If Body language is anything to go by , hes not telling the truth.
     

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