Mangini... A Napoleon complex?

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  1. Heavy Metal Thunder

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  2. takrew

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    I think he will go on to be a good head coach... but he needs to learn from his mistakes here in NY.....
     
  3. Section 227. Row 5

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    He came from NE with lots of good ideas and game-planning abilities from his mentor, but mostly organizational skills and how to handle the press (or not handle them), etc.

    The one thing he failed to carry over with him was Belichick's secret to motivating people and his unbelievable chameleon-like ability to adjust well on game day. Throw in getting the most out of an otherwise mediocre player. Nobody does it better and this is one of the main things Mangini lost in the transistion.

    He's a smart guy and will (should) learn from his experience here, but he clearly wasn't ready yet. I do believe he "lost" the team somewhere after 8-3 and didn't have the motivational ability to get it back. His inability to adjust to cast-in-stone game plans at the half was the biggest contributor to his undoing because even the team was stymied as to the calls.

    If he's as smart as he seems, he'll go on to be a good HC. IF not, the Browns will bounce him and he'll eventually wind up taking a DC job somewhere just to get a paycheck.
     
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  4. Popeye's Army

    Popeye's Army New Member

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    Good summary. I agree with every word.
     
  5. VickBlows

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    The biggest problem he is going to have in Cleveland is him being an awful coach; if he is able to overcome that then he might be okay – otherwise they’re screwed.
     
  6. Sundayjack

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    Okay, I confess, I always HATED that idiotic name "Tangini". However, I could really thump my chest in pride if I were the one who came up with the new Mangini/Kokinis moniker I just read:
     
  7. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Herm would go on to be a good coach after leaving the Jets too... oh wait... never mind.
     
  8. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    He is fucking doomed. Cleveland will never be a good football team. They will always be behind Baltimore and Pittsburgh.
     
  9. Miamipuck

    Miamipuck New Member

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    This thread begs the following questions:

    Isn't Mangini big and fat? How the hell can he have a Napoleon complex?

    Unless he has a fetish for the pastry, which judging by his shape, may be the case.
     
  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    What exactly is it that makes Mangini a great coaching prospect? Does he have excellent motivational skills? No. Does he have great tactical ability? No. Does he have a unique perspective on the game, maybe bringing a new idea to the forefront? No. Do his teams overperform consistently? No. Does he have the respect of his peers, with many of them considering him to be a very good coach? No.

    I just don't see what makes him any good. The only thing that he has clearly demonstrated is the ability to get hired as head coach by inexperienced owners who have not established that they really understand the football business yet.
     
  11. inSANITy

    inSANITy Banned

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    more like a penguin complex
     
  12. JetsUK

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    A midly amusing Napoleon story for you.

    July, 1807. Napoleon was in high spirits having signed The Peace of Tilsit, a landmark treaty between France, Russia and Prussia. To celebrate, Napoleon suggested that the Imperial Court should enjoy a lavish rabbit hunt, organized by his trusted chief-of-staff, Alexandre Berthier.

    Berthier, who had joined the army at the age of thirteen, arranged the event in an emerald field with military precision.

    A mouthwatering luncheon - fit for kings, minor royalty, and top military brass - was lovingly prepared in a billowing marquee. Fine wines were decanted into cut crystal decanters.

    Platoons of beaters, game keepers and gun carriers chattered excitedly while waiting for the Imperial party. Nothing has been left to chance. Not even the game.

    Berthier was so keen to impress that he had bought hundreds of rabbits to ensure that the Imperial Court had plenty to shoot at. Satisfied that nothing could possibly go wrong, Berthier waited calmly for the guests to take their position.

    The shoot commenced, and the rabbits were released by the game keepers. But disaster struck. Berthier had bought tame rabbits who thought they were about to be fed. Rather than fleeing for their life, they saw Napoleon and thought he was their keeper bringing food.

    The rabbits stormed towards Napoleon at 35 miles per hour. The shooting party could do nothing to stop them. The humiliated Emperor was left with no other option but to run, beating the rabbits off with his bare hands. But the rabbits did not relent; and drove the Emperor back to his carriage.

    Napoleon sped off, utterly humiliated by one of the most harmless mammals on earth.

    Source: http://www.strategypage.com/cic/docs/cic104b.asp

    Also, did you know that Napoleon was not actually called that, his real name was Nabulion da Buonaparte
     
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    ^^^haha good. reminds me of when favre ran for his life from the harmless miami d-lineman.
     
  14. BK_Jetsfan

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    He also failed to understand the 3-4 defense. I think Mangini has a pedestrian understanding of it, like you or I, and not the true understanding of the scheme like Billicheat.
     
  15. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    :rofl: I was kind of partial to this one:

    I can't believe they're actually using that moniker...
     
  16. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    The theory out there is short people to make up for there shortness have a Napoleon Complex. Anybody know how tall Mangini is since it usually affects people who are like 5"5" or shorter so the theory goes
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I'm looking at a picture I took at camp of Favre standing next to Mangini, and if I were to guess I'd say he is a good 6-8 inches shorter than Favre's 6'2".
     
  18. Dunlaing

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    I prefer to use a latex glove.

    Otherwise, it can get messy.
     
  19. championjets69

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    Well then it would appear he would qualify for the complex

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_complex
     
  20. Popeye's Army

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    The Canton Repository cites a Browns insider who says the atmosphere at team headquarters has been miserable since head coach Eric Mangini took over less than a month ago.

    The source claims Mangini is "running the place like Napoleon" and may have already alienated Pro Bowl DT Shaun Rogers after snubbing him at a recent public function. The report smacks of rumor and innuendo, but it also jives with earlier criticism of Mangini as a poor communicator lacking people skills.

    Source: Canton Repository
     

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