POLL: Can Rex Ryan save Vernon Gholston?

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Can Rex Ryan save Vernon Gholston?

  1. Yes, he will turn him into a Pro Bowler

    36 vote(s)
    21.8%
  2. Yes, he will make him a solid NFL starter

    49 vote(s)
    29.7%
  3. Yes, he will be an NFL starter

    30 vote(s)
    18.2%
  4. Yes, he will be a situational pass rushing specialist

    26 vote(s)
    15.8%
  5. No, he will ride the pine most of his remaining years

    7 vote(s)
    4.2%
  6. No, he will be an Usher for Regal Cinemas in 3 years

    17 vote(s)
    10.3%
  1. ReservoirDog76

    ReservoirDog76 New Member

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    Can Vernon the Ghost be saved?
     
  2. vinsjets

    vinsjets Active Member

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    I have no idea, but since I purchased a Gholston jersey, I'm voting probowler.
     
  3. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    I'll say yeah. Just being optimistic for a change..
     
  4. ReservoirDog76

    ReservoirDog76 New Member

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    I said he would be an NFL starter...nothing outstanding however...
     
  5. BadgerOnLSD

    BadgerOnLSD Banned

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    I went with the least optimistic yet positive answer, situational pass rusher. But I wouldn't bet on it.
     
  6. ReservoirDog76

    ReservoirDog76 New Member

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    Gran Torino:beer:
     
  7. Miamipuck

    Miamipuck New Member

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    Man who knows. Based on this years passive, read and react defense that neutered any aggression, it is rather difficult to tell how good or bad Gholston is or will be. To be sure he showed little to nothing but really many other players did the same.

    Ryan sure as hell coached up a bunch of players that were not 1st round talents. Nakamura, Leonard, Scott, A. Thomas (2-3 years ago) etc. etc. I honestly can not say at this point.
     
  8. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    I'm with you. I can see Gholston becoming a guy that you see on 3rd downs getting good pressure on the QB. I don't think he has the lateral agility to be an every down LB, but coming off the bench and coming down hill on 3rd downs.

    ...and I love Gran Torino.
     
  9. vilmatic

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    I think yes. Looking at that Baltimore defense I see a lot of physical talent put in poisition to succeed - of course they all have some serious heart, which we have yet to see, but I think success will breed success with him. When he knows people are depending on him, he will have the heart.
     
  10. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    +1

    Gholston won't be focusing on learning containment or zone coverage... he'll be in there trying to kill the ball carrier or the quarterback.

    If he can't succeed in Ryan's defense, he won't be able to succeed anywhere.
     
  11. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    I think the biggest problem right now is Gholston himself, he just didn?t look like he?s in Shape or he was playing as hard as he could have. The sceme does of course not make it very easy for a Rook to make the transition, but there are still plays, where you just pin you ears back and get after someone, without thinking about anything, even then Gholston looked slow.

    btw, who is our LB-Coach? Our top Rookie looks slow and lost, BT?s slacking after he signed a contract, and this season, he also disapeard, after the first 4-5 games. Harris took a huge step back this season. And noone seems to be able to get in his zone in time or cover a damn TE.
     
  12. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    The scheme is only going to get harder for that clown. He has his money and that's all he ever cared about.

    Oh, and all the coaches will change. We don't have any right now or at least won't after tomorrow.
     
  13. Jetcane

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    I agree. The one person who can save VG is VG.

    He should learn from one of Ryan's players: Ray Lewis, who is one of the hardest working players in the league, off-season and on. There are very few players who train as hard as him, and after all these years he is still one of the better players in the league.

    P.S. i was in a waiting room last week and picked up an old issue of Men's Fitness to read while I was waiting, which had an article on Lewis and Ryan, and Ryan was talking about the shit i just posted.
     
  14. Kaiser

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    I'm suprised that the votes are as balanced as they are. You guys do realize he's moving into one of the most complicated Defensive Schemes in the NFL, right?
     
  15. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Gholston cannot be saved unless he himself asks for forgiveness and accepts Ryan as his savior.
     
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    Go Knights!!! :)
     
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    I can't vote in this poll. The options are all wrong. My vote would be somewhere in the middle, but slightly reworded.

    Yes, he will turn him into a Pro Bowler
    Yes, he will make him a solid NFL starter
    No, he will be just an average NFL starter
    No, he will only be a situational pass rushing specialist

    No, he will ride the pine most of his remaining years
    No, he will be an Usher for Regal Cinemas in 3 years
     
  18. TommyGreen

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    It's impossible to say what will happen with Gholston, but I think a guy like Rex could make something out of the kid. I just don't think it'll be enough.
     
  19. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    I'm tellin ya... I don't think Gholston was being used properly and it screwed him up. I would like to make a vbet that Gholston has at WORST a decent year next year! Say... 6 sacks, 70 tackles?
     
  20. Twombles

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    I think 70 tackles might be a little optimistic but 6 sacks should be do-able for him as long as he has a good offseason.

    I'm suprised that the votes are so positive with the posts that fly on this board. I really don't have a clue how he'll turn out, but I think that he's at least talented enough to become a solid started if he sorts his head out. That sort of talent displayed by him a year ago just doesn't disappear over night. Gholston could be a solid pass rusher right now if was handled by the coaching staff very well and he'd sorted himself out a little bit better. There is no 'transitional period' involved when all he has to worry about is rushing a QB.
     

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