1st off i am in total support for rex to come here...but id love to see him use the 4-3 and the 46 defence on some sets to go along with our 3-4 base. post your thoughts on what players could be in these sets if we use them.
Well, the way the Jets D is setup, the OLBs can both play DE, so I would not be hard to shift from a 3-4 to a 4-3 at the line as far as I can see. I always thought that was the point of having bigger OLBs but I could be wrong.
Rex does use a little 4-3 down in baltimore, he is actually the only coach i see in the nfl who uses a 3-4 and true 4-3, other coaches have 4 down lineman, but only in nickle packages if they use a 3-4 base.
Harris is the ILB, I was thinking of Pace and Thomas, they obviously brought Gholston in to replace Thomas, but that has not panned out. Pace and Thomas are both converted DEs.
I think they would definitely need more speed at olb in a 4-3 considering that it was a major problem in the 3-4 this year. I assume a 4-3 would be something like: Dline: Coleman, Pouha, Jenkins, Ellis or maybe Gholston/Thomas, Coleman, Jenkins, Ellis LB: Pace, Harris, Barton We went from speed and lack of strength with Robertson and Vilma to power and lack of speed with Jenkins and Harris. I still prefer the latter, but we need to address this in the offseason. Hopefully we can grab a speedy sideline to sideline MLB that can move outside in a 4-3. Who are the possibilities here? Vilma (too much $$$), Gholston's old teammate Laurinaitus (too small?) , Bart Scott (too slow?)
He never panned out as w=one in Araizona, but would seem to have the tools. I doubt anything great but decent.
Yeah. But throughout their careers, both of them sucked as 4-3 DEs. Both were widely considered busts until being converted to 3-4 OLBs.
I Know Rob uses a 46 Defense with some cover 2 but i think Rex is a straight up 3-4 guy. Either way im happy if Rex gets the job. Our D will much improve.
I would love to see Laurinaitis here but I'm afraid he would be another OSU LB bust (The Big Kat Katzenmoyer, Schelegel of Wild Boar hunting fame, the Ghost Vernon Gholston, Bobby I'm not my dad Carpenter, But if he is like these OSU LB'ers I would love it = Pepper Johnson & Chris Spielman Still on the fence about AJ I'm banging Brady's Quinns sister Hawk Laurinaitus is the one of most decorated defenders in college football history
if the Jets were to implement some 46, would look something along these lines: note** this d requires very good personnel, so i'm not advocating it at this time CB - Revis. it's a bump and run aggresive D, leaving corners on an island. having good corners absolutely necessary for this D. CB - Law. obviously this would concern me. Jets might need to get Nnamdi if they were really serious about the 46. SS (46) - Elam. the SS in this D is the 8th man in the box. provides run support, often blitzes on passing downs. i actually like Elam in this role. he'd have to be able to match up with some WR's on 3 WR sets though. I'd also consider Lowery for this spot. FS - Rhodes. This is the center fielder role which Ed Reed does so well in. need ball hawking instincts and ability to make up ground and help out your CB's. i like Rhodes here. NT - Jenkins. i think this guy can play anything. big point of this D is to penetrate up the middle on passing downs, stuff the run, occupy the Center. DE/DT - Coleman. not crazy about Coleman's play, but need a big body up here to occupy Guards, and penetrate on passing downs. I'd give Mosely a shot too. DE - Ellis. one on one coverage would help Ellis. versatile player, good fit. Rush DE - Gholston. no idea if Gholston can handle it. Suggs plays here, Dent played it back in day. idea obviously is to get after QB. OLB - Pace. lots of blitzing, lots of coverage. i think Pace would fit. WOLB - Barton. not sure on this. MLB - Harris. this is one of most important positions in the 46, and the reason Ryan brought it to Balt was Ray Lewis. Mike Singletary is another prime example. job is to whack RB's. it's possible Harris could emerge into this role, but his pass coverage isn't the best. All in all, it's possible. We do need a couple pieces of the puzzle though. And Ryan wouldn't run exclusive 46 anyway, so expect multiple fronts including various 3-4/4-3 looks. Man i hope we get this coach!
I'd assume a 4-3 package for us would look like: DE: Gholston/Thomas NT: Jenkins DT: Coleman/Pouha DE: Ellis/Pace OLB: Barton or FA MLB: Harris OLB: Pace or FA We obviously will adress LB in FA or the draft this year.
mixing it up and showing different looks doesnt mean solely switching between a 3-4 and 4-3. You can mix it up w/ all type of different fronts mixing d-linemen and linebackers. That's what the overall concept of a Ryan defense is. We have some guys w/ the versatility to show different looks. Pace, Thomas,Barton and if he comes around Gholston...can be those type of guys. I believe the position we're gonna see upgraded above all else is the safety position opposite Rhodes. An aggressive defense like that of Ryan depends heavily on having fast and heady backmen. Jimmy Johnson recently said, that what makes his defense click..is his safeties. They allow him the ability to be aggressive up front and not give up the big play. Don't be surprised if the big FA move we make..or our first round pick..is an elite level safety.
