For what seems like an eternity now and at a minimum the Mangini era, we have put system before player and in many cases have played players out of position and most definitely not to there strength. I know this offseason we tinkered alot and did fill some of those holes so I believe this year was less not having the right players but I still believe they were misused. After watching a weekend of playoff games and determining that I did not one team that I would have thought the Jets don't beat when we were rolling around NE, Tenn Time, it become very apparent to me that we terribly misuse our talent. Examples Washington VS- Westbrook Sproles Westbrook a bit bigger, Sproles a bit quicker I say that Washington compares favorably to either player, each of these players were the single biggest reason there team won this week, now Washington has won us games also but with much fewer oppurtunities, plays like washington had to get us in the playoffs in 06 against Miami have to become more the week in and week out plays we see not once in a blue moon. Washington must get a minimum of 12 touches a game next year. I would strip him of punt duties (lets be honest he has not broken a punt and is frustrating in the decisions he makes in fielding and not fielding punts inside the 20 ) With this off his plate no reason to not use him more like sproles, Westbrook or Bush for that matter. Gholston, Pace, Thomas, Murrell etc......- All week I saw pass rush specialists guys on the field whose sole job was to rush the passer- Mathis, Suggs etc...... Are you telling me amongst the players we have one of these cannot be rested or replaced on 1st and 2nd down and be inserted fresh with nothing more to do then get to the QB- Gholston should have been inserted a DE on passing downs and just told get the QB plain and simple if he loses containment big fucking deal that is what we pay Harris and Barton to do clean up the mess. To keep asking these guys to pass cover is just killing us and putting them out of position. Kerry Rhodes Vs Ed Reed- now I understand these two cannot even be mentioned in the same sentence, but I do believe Rhodes should be closer to a player "like" Reed rather then the guy we watched this year. Rhodes should be allowed to play center field, read the QB and jump and pickoff passes. Watch Reed and what you see is a guy who focuses on a QB and when that QB is pressured he knows there is a chance for a pick, a pick 6 for that matter. Rhodes this year played with his back to the QB which he is taught was the over the top help for Revis- which meant the ball was never thrown in his area. Bellichek made a comment about how good Rhodes was and teams threw away from him, possibly true, but do you think teams throw at REED? or do they just don't know where he is? Rhodes responsibility has to be to survey the QB allowed to freelance and ball hawk, plain and simple, he is a great athlete let him be that. I could go on as I believe this trend runs throughout our team I do believe these are the biggest missuses though and would love to here of more that you all have seen tooo. One more note- many of the games these weeks were games that always remained within a touchdown etc....... How many times in the second 1/2 of season were we down 3,4, 7 points and abandoned the run, being within one score does not mean you need to pass pass pass.
What would Sproles have done if LT was able to play? Sproles had 61 rush attempts all year and 29 recs w/ a banged up LT. Leon had 76 rush attempts and 47 recs. Too low but alot more than Sproles so let's not kneel down before SD b/c Sproles wouldn't have touched ti if LT was ok to play.
^^^ All good points. The other thing that I noticed over the weekend is that all of the defenses were attacking. 3-4. 4-3, it did not matter. They all one gapped and penetrated. None of this 2 gap read and react bullshit. And they sent more than the base alignment after the QB. No 3 man rushes that give the QB enough time to eat a sandwich. Ed Reed is so effective because he knows that the opposing QB has until 3 missisippi to get the ball out. the secondary doesn't have to blanket cover for 10 minutes. Get Spags or Ryan. A DC who is aggressive!
Get them as your DC maybe. Unless they can clone themselves they won't be doing much on defense while playing HC. Hire either of them as your HC and Sutton may still be your DC...think about it.
they won't allow sutton to return as DC. he wouldnt be one of their guys. They would hire one of their own guys. Ryan/Spags = agressive. Sutton = conservative. Styles do not match, therefore he wouldnt be hired even if it was a great interview. He can follow Eric to Cleveland if he wants.
You would hope not but there is no explanation while all of the assistants have been kept unless they plan on using them again...remember this is Johnsow we are talking about here and he doesn't want to spend a single penny he doesn't have to.
The assistants are still wth us because we have not hired a HC yet. At that point the new HC will assemble his staff. You don't put the cart before the horse.
Jonhson spent big in FA last year and has invested big in the new facility and stadium. I don't get why people think he is cheap. Jenkins, Pace, Woody, and Favre would disagree.
Um...all those teams are better than ours. Most of those players have been with those teams longer than our guys have been with us. That'd probably explain most of it. It's not like we have bad players, just unestablished everythings.
I agree with the OP and hence why the CS had to go. But the one guy who is most obviously under-utilized is LW. What would Parcells have done with LW? Dave Megget anyone. Third down package: LW and DK.
One clear way that our CS stunk was the way we lined up our blitzes. Almost every single sack we had was a result of: 1. good coverage 2. really good move by the guy getting the sack We NEVER had a guy run in free like you saw in the games this weekend. That's due to scheming and putting a guy in position to succeed. How come we never overload one side on a blitz? Why is it that our edge guys never seem to be free? After watching the Ravens, there's a definite art to designing a blitz and getting after the QB. If we want to beat the Pats and Phins, we have to be able to rattle the QB's. Personally, Rex Ryan looked pretty good to me.
I agree with all of this. I was thinking the same thing when watching other teams. I even saw the "mighty" Cardinals jumping gaps and blowing up plays before they develop. I can't name anyone on that defense and they at least manage to blitz effectively once in awhile. The Jets do nothing creative, at least nothing creatively good. I have seen a few "creative" blitzes where Kerry Rhodes blitzes from 25 yards away and doesn't get anywhere near the QB.
From your mouth to God's ears. I think Mangini promoted him from LB coach to DC because Sutton knew less about defense than Mangini did. I think his great claim to fame can be that he was the position coach of the LB (Mo) that helped start the Tom Brady dynasty.
His clone's defenses have sucked a dog dick for 2 seasons in Oakland. And don't tell me it's just because of Al Davis.
I enjoyed that post very much thank you. Great points. I don't know that we've under-utilized Leon Washington. I'd love to see him get the ball on more screens, and certainly hope he's on this team for years to come, but I thought this year they did a pretty good job getting him on the field. Thomas Jones looked good too with the football tucked into his monster hgh arms, and there are 4 downs per series. Leon seemed to get his touches over our last 5 crap games. Your best point was regarding the non-use of Gholston. That was a disgrace. I was telling anyone who'd listen in row 37 that they ought to line him up at end on passing downs and let him rip a couple of times. There was that play in the Denver game where suddenly it was Vernon and Jay staring face to face, and VG blinked. That was enough for Mangini to close the book on him for the year. You cannot argue that personnel matching the system has been our biggest issue over the years. It's one of the reasons I'm reserved on the Mangini firing. I hate to have to begin again and wind up with more players in the wrong system. Additional note that doesn't matter too much - I had a chance to drink with a Giants scout, who knowing I was Jets fan told me that IHO, Mangini's greatest fault was that he forced the system on his current players. This conversation was before the FA signings of last winter. Giant guy pointed to examples of Coughlin not doing that. Wish I could remember what they were, but as I said, I was drinking. Also - has anyone found Dustin Keller? He's been missing. I hope he's on a milk carton or something. He was my favorite Jet this year. For a few games.
