From everything we have heard says that the Jets like Ratliff over Clemens. So that takes Clemens out of the equation ( I dont understand why but thats how the Jets feel apparently) so that leaves us with Ratliff as the guy if Favre does retire. If the Jets feel Ratliff can is ready to play now then im all for starting him. Same thing for Clemens or if they draft a QB. But if they dont then there is no one else to go to besides a Jeff Garcia type of player for 1 year. What I would like to see happen is this. Favre retires taking him out of the equation. Draft a QB in the first round. Let Clemens and Ratliff battle it out for the starting job. Let the winner of the competition play and if he looks like a player then trade the QB you drafted and if he doesnt then give the QB you drafted a shot. The only problem with that scenario is that I dont know if there going to be able to get one of the bigger QB's in the draft this year. But yes I agree with you. I am sick of the old veteran QB approach.
This is one of my top five dissapointments for losing Mangini. Mangini & Co. had the opportunity to see Ratliff throughout the Pre-Season/Training Camp/Practice. I feel bad for Ratliff because I believe he's going to get pushed to the back burner, for whoever the next HC decides they need to play here. Bad for the organization, but possibily a good situation for Ratliff to venture elsewhere. There are more than a few teams that would be willing to give someone like him a shot *Cough* *Cough* Detroit? San Fran? Anyway, I'm in agreeance with the fact that he needs to prove himself against starting Defenses, and I was dissapointed when he didn't get that opportunity after Favre came in. As of right now, I truely believe that Ratliff is the best QB on our Roster, of course that remains to be proven. I hope the next HC has a keen eye for talent, and gets a chance to see what this kid can do.
After a couple months Ratliff looked more polished than Clemens did after two years and half a season of starts.
Isn't what stats count. Unless we want a really bad qb with bad stats. Which sounds like a Jets move. Stats and what the player has done for the team is what counts. He he did take his team to be one of the first ever 11-5 teams not to make the playoffs. Isnt that why we brought favre in on his past stats and his remarkable play. Isnt that why they brought Thomas Jones in too because what he did in the super bowl and his past seasons
In what I'm considering to be the greatest irony of this season, holding on to Schotty might just be the best thing for our offense if Ratliff turns out to be our QB of the future. Schotty was the one who decided not to cut him and I doubt many other OCs will be willing to hang on to an undrafted QB they inherited when they could just draft someone to their system.
Cassel's situation works well for him now. As does Chad Pennington's. This is the reason that these QB's are so successful with the teams they're with right now. Both teams have Offensive Coordinators who are extremely well at figuring out a Defenses weakness and exploiting it. Both Josh McDaniels, and Dan Henning are masters of this, and this is what "Soft Arm Chad" seems so successful in Maimi right now. BS, not so much. Bring Josh McDaniels or Dan Henning to NY, and you'll see that even Chad could be successful here.
OMG are you serious??? He threw 5-7 yard outs and screen passes... WW and RM got all his Yards.. Our WR are not the same as NE.. He is not a good fit with the Jets...
I wish we could get Stafford somehow but that is clearly a pipe dream. I would leave Clemens and bring in Simms. Drafting the "right" qb should be a priority but we shouldn't draft one for the sake of drafting one. I think Clemens would succeed behind the improved offensive line as was such in the case of Thomas Jones.
He should be since in any other division or conference thats a wild card spot. To bad he had to play against the Mighty Jets and the Rejuvenated Dolphins. To bad the football gods didn't want them in the playoffs. Plus all it meant was their season wasnt really a wash since nobody expected him to really do anything. So now he has an 11-5 season under his belt
your probably right since it looks like our wr forgot how to catch balls. So 5-7 yards passes would be good for them. Thats what last years playoffs was all about dip and dunk passes. Thats all you saw in the playoffs last season.
Yeah im sick and tired of hearing about Matt Cassel. Whats more annoying then Jet fans talking about him is listening to Pat fans compare him to Steve Young waiting behind Joe Montana. Cassel compiled a lot of numbers against poor defenses like the Jets, Cardinals, Seahawks, Dolphins, Denver. Thats 1,909 yards with 14 TD's. Thats more then half of his numbers and those teams were bad at defending the pass. Now good QB's beat up on bad teams thats true but this is also a QB coached by a great coach in a great system with great weapons. What I just gave you is stats based off 7 games. His averages against the other teams come out to 198 yards per game, 1 TD, and 1 INT per game if I am doing that right. Thats just for people who want to throw out stats about him lol.
So what was our stats against those bad teams since we played them too. I think we lost to every one of those teams except the cards. So does that mean if he played on the jets he would have beaten those teams since we were the division leaders at one point? And we played the seahawks, broncos. and dolphins during our losing streak.
He played well enough to almost win this division in that system. This was not a guy who looked good in a few games, he looked good all year. He will be over paid by whom ever signs him. I don't see him becomming the Jets QB, but he is better then you are giving him credit for.
No because like I said he had a great HC with great weapons in a great system. Maybe he is as good as those numbers say but all im saying is that his numbers outside of those 7 games against those teams are not that good.
I'm free. I mean, i'm lucky to sling it over 5 yards and pretty much have ZERO skill but i could use the money. I do like to think i'm a pretty good monday morning quarterback. If Favre retires, we don't draft one, and Clemens and Ratliff don't work out, let me know. Just throwing that out there, putting one more option on the table.
as the steelers proved in the first two seasons under rothlesberger, if you have a really good running game, you can get by with a newer qb. you don't need an older vet qb if you throw when you want to, not only when you have to. see the falcons under ryan, the rookie qb. ditto flacco, with the ravens. heck, brady was a 6th round pick, and montana was a 3rd round pick. unitas was a steelers cut who got signed as a free agent by the colts.
