Did Jenkins Really Say

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  1. onefanjet

    onefanjet Well-Known Member

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    The simple truth is that when you line up your Qb as a Wr, and the running back takes the snap and runs, the advantage goes to the offense in terms of numbers of players. For example, no wildcat, Farve under center =11 men on defence, and ten on offense (Farve),,,,, get it? is a great concept but should also be recognized very easily by most defenses. :wink::grin:
     
  2. Quack

    Quack New Member

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    Onefanjet, nice try, but that isn't right. When you have a quarterback, you can run or pass. In a wild cat, you are almost always going to run and are thus taking away your two receivers (the real receiver and the wide qb).

    Want to know why the wildcat works?

    Players on defense have reads, known as keys. Sometimes linebackers key to guards, sometimes they key to running backs. Linemen can key on backs or their opposing lineman. When you are running a wildcat play, keys lie. They lie BIG TIME, because your blockers are moving to block for three different backs and three different backs are acting like they are definitely going to get the ball.

    Thus, it takes a play for the defense to adjust to it. The wildcat is never run two plays in a row, because on the second play, the defense waits and reads the ball rather than player movement, thus stopping the confusion that the wildcat would have previously caused. This generally doesn't work against a regular offense, which is why you have keys.
     
  3. Long Time Jet Fan

    Long Time Jet Fan New Member

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    well that and the fact he relied on a 39-year old washed up quarterback. :wink:
     
  4. Firemangini Ed

    Firemangini Ed New Member

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    Because Ronnie Brown is left handed and ball carreirs run better with the ball in the dominant hand. Ricky Williams is right handed. So Ricky goes in motion and when the snap comes Ronnie reads the D and gives Ricky the ball if the right outside is open. If the middle is open he goes up the middle and if the left outside is open he goes left. QBs also throw better running to the side of their dominant hand. So when Ronnie is running left he can still throw well.

    The wildcat became famous at Arkansas. Even though McFadden is right handed and throws right, he is the rare player who runs better with the ball in his off hand. Maybe its cuz his other sport was baseball.
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    In the case of Parcells that would be tampering and probably cost us 2 or 3 1st round picks. I also doubt that would be the case with Cowher either. The reason being that Tannenbaum is still here.
     
  6. Hemi

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    Simms saw them practicing it during the week.
     
  7. Motorboat

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    It's a bunch of things.

    Your average running play has the QB essentially useless, leaving 9 blockers for 11 defenders. Splitting the QB out wide doesn't create any sort of mismatch, but teams overwhelmingly do assign a defender to him.

    The Ricky Williams/Ronnie Brown intersection also keeps teams from aggressively attacking, and attacking the line could easily have Williams with the ball on the end-around, badly outflanking pursuit.

    The unbalanced line also creates a mismatch- The Dolphins two best run blockers are next to each other. Jake Long lines up at TE next to Vernon Carey, which is a big mismatch.
     
  8. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    rooney rule is easy to get by if you have a candidate pretty much locked up. they could just walk downstairs and talk to bryan cox for a few hours and be free of any possible punishment.
     
  9. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Because in the NFL no one ever accounts for the Quarterback. You Rush, 3, maybe 5,very infrequently 6...So when the RB takes the Direct snap most of the defense is falling away for the line of scrimmage, and the blockers are working up the field.

    The wildcat would not work for a team with a mobile quarterback, where the defense has already accounted for spying on him.

    It doesn't really work all that well now. By next season, it will be just another trick play.
     
  10. Quack

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    What the hell is with this bs answer of the qb not mattering coming up three times in this thread? There is a personell change required for the wildcat. Players don't read personell, they get the packages from the sidelines. The wildcat has absolutely nothing to do with the qb.
     
  11. skorol75

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    Not make decisions like a pussy? Look, in a game like that every point counts. If you have a chance to get a 3 point lead, don't mess around. The winner of this game had 10 points. You can get 3 on the spot in first Q, go for it. I don't think this decision was the reason we lost. As far as 50 yarder... In a posession type of game, when winner only needs about 10 points, you have to be conservative. We lost because Favre missed OPEN receivers time and time again. Staying conservative is not what lost us the game.
     
  12. metsandjetswillkillm

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    wildcat

    the wildcat is so hard to defend because there are literally endless options. Like we saw against the Jets it can be used on trick plays like the hand off to the tailback then the toss to chad for the throw downfield to the tailback.Or the tailback that lines up at QB can take it himself or use it to run the option. Yeah, its pretty much something that you cant fully prepare for but it is something that can be contained reasonably. The Jets got lucky that they lost by only a TD, it should have been more if Williams didnt drop that pass.

    P.S i knew that game was over before ti even started. The Jets walked out on the field and looked lifeless. Even after they showed that the jags were winning on the scoreboard the only players showing any emotion were Washington and Revis.
     
  13. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Not sure if the tampering rule includes FO personnel, but if it is you would be correct. However, Parcells is no stranger to tampering.
     
  14. metsandjetswillkillm

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    ""As far as 50 yarder... In a posession type of game, when winner only needs about 10 points, you have to be conservative.""

    I would agree with you on that if Feeley didnt knock the first one through that woulda been good from 60 yards out. You just contradicted yourself saying how important 3 points is in a game where 14 points is good enough to win. You needed to let Feeley kick that field goal, there is no excuse for that. Mangini contradicted his own coaching style too, he refused to let the AFC leading rusher try and pick up a first down within the five yard line and put them in great position to get a TD, and instead he chose to kick a FG, which is fine. But then with around 2:30 to go he goes for a low percentage play on fourth down with timeouts left. He risks that but not a TD in the first quarter? it doesnt make any sense at all. There was plenty of time left to punt and then let the defense gt you the ball back. Mangini needed to go
     

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