Oh yeah one last thing. Next time John Madden says 'no one ever loved the game as much as Brett Favre', remember this is the same guy who hasn't been able to decide if he wants to keep playing football for the last 5 or 6 years.
Brett Favre has the emotional life of a woman. That's not better or worse than a man's emotional life, but it is different.
Although I think that Favre's play during the last five games was really bad, I'm not going to say that he isn't hurt. To me there is nothing inconsistent with having an injury and still being able to throw it well on occasion. These guys take a huge beating.
Thanks for dropping in Killer. We kinda got there over the last 5 weeks as well. We saw it coming but hoped against hope we could harness the gunslinger and turn him into the game manager our system requires. We wound up with neither. Hopefully, Farve just rides off into the sunset now and the Jets move on into the future. No way in hell he'll be able to hold JetLand hostage like he did Green Bay. The fans and media here would eat him alive if he tried.
Life is alot harder on a D when your QB turns it over multiple times every game and when he can't lead his talented offense to points unless he gets great FP. Miami won yesterday b/c of Favre, the difference in the 2 teams was as clear as could be and it was about the QB position.
Another Packer fan here. It all starts with the line on both sides of the ball. Packers and Jets both showed that the QB position isn't the end-all. Favre isn't Superman, and he isn't a fraud. He's a genuine, if aging, superstar. People would pay to see him play in green Bay to the point that they could have printed the tickets "BRETT FAVRE and the Green Bay Packers," and he brought a good deal of that to the Jets. He also brought his amazing consecutive-start streak, and continued it. He didn't bring the Jets a playoff berth, but it was not completely in his power to do so. He did bring a level of excitement that I don't think that the Jets have enjoyed in a while, and I'd bet that, figured against the bottom line of ticket sales, t-shirt sales, and TV viewership numbers, his salary was a bargain. In Wisconsin, Fox had the deal for the bulk of the Packer games, and the CBS affiliates covered as many Jets games as possible. Only one reason for that: jersey #4. He IS a true gunslinger, though he may no longer be the fastest. He can make a mediocre team look good, and give any team hope to win the game. He is not one for quiet, efficient execution of the team's game plan, which is all the Packers appeared to need after last year, and Brett appeared to be a liability in that regard. As it turned out, the Packers as a team turned all mediocre on us, and Favre, numbers notwithstanding, might have been the difference in a number of those six games that the Packers lost by 4 points or less. A case could also be made that the whole distraction of his soap opera departure threw the team just a little out of synch. At this point, there's plenty of blame to go around for both teams, but there's no denying that the Jets' record improved with the guy, and even though Rodgers had better QB numbers, the Pack had fewer wins. Intangibles happen. At the end of the game, Favre throws the hail-Mary, jump ball bomb. It's simply part of his superstar show. If it's complete, the guy's a genius, and if not, he's an idiot. At that point, it's not in his hands anymore, but rather, a contest between the receiver and defensive backs. But at least, he rolled the dice and gave the team a chance to win the game, and the fans hope until the very end. Not all QB's do that. Bottom line, it's football, and Favre is one helluva football player. At the beginning of this season, I said that if Favre and the Jets went 13-3 this year, I'd eat my mouse. They actually went 8-3 before I stopped sweating that remark. I'm lucky I didn't make any predictions about the Packers' season, or I'd be Googling a recipe for polystyrene. I think that Favre should be a backup, something he's never considered. If a team's young, hotshot, high draft-pick QB is falling on his face during the first half, the stadium absolutely rocks to the rafters when Favre comes off the bench, and gives everybody their money's worth if he wins or not. That's because he's the real deal, and everybody knows it. He could have 3, 4 years that way, and they'd hardly make him show up for practice. Favre a "fraud?" I don't think so.
Well, at least that may be one lasting positive Favre had on this team. His backup got to watch what happened this year and came to the realization that lots of Jets fans & media are assholes, who are going to remain assholes no matter what, so he's going to have to learn to totally ignore Jets fans and just play for his coach and teammates. Quote Clemens two weeks ago:
Go away now. Stop insulting Jet fans, this is the big City, the biggest stage. We don't cheer a guy b/c he looks like he's having fun. We have expectations and he did not meet those expectations nor di the team and they will hear it. This isn't some little town where they have a college-like atmosphere. He was paid $12 mil to perform, he didn't we let him hear it and he deserves it. He ruined our season this year, he's not going to get praised for that.
He's like a high school pitcher, when he getting bombed his arm hurts, when he throwing a no hitter he feels great. When Favre throws a td, you never see him hold his arm. The only reason your owner wants him around is he's a cash cow. Not only did the bum ruin your season, ever since he was on wall street with the mayor, the stock market has crashed.
Now the world knows why Green Bay let the self centered whiner go. If his arm/shoulder is hurting for 4 months why didn't the TEAM make him undergo an MRI? He's 40 years old and there's nothing left.
Wow. You sound like a real "fun" guy yourself. Hey, it's football. It's a game. They play the game to entertain you. If you weren't entertained by Brett Favre, it's not his fault, it's yours. If it were simply a case of who can pay the most money to guarantee the winner, why even play the game? Don't tell me: you're a Yankee fan, too, and pissed off 80% of the time about that. I feel sorry for you, and the reason why has nothing to do with how your season turned out.
Favre is not coming back, imo. The bullshit with his shoulder is just his way of getting out. He doesn't want any talk about unfinished business or anything else. I think he realizes he's done, but won't admit it, so he'll use the shoulder as an excuse.
Brett Fraud.....no surprises here. Sick of this diva....first it was the hand, then it was the shoulder. Every time he throws a pic, get real!
Farve is faking it what else is new??? How many times is he going to fake his retirement this year???
