Brian Billick for HC in 2009

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  1. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    I know there are a ton of names being thrown out for Head Coach in 2009 and there are a lot of threads but im bored so im going to make another.

    The three names I have thought about for Head Coach in 2009 are Bill Cowher, Steve Spagnoula, and Brian Billick.

    After giving it some thought I dont know if Spagnoula would be a good fit. The Jets have a lot of talent and I think most Jet fans agree they lack coaching so taking a chance on another rookie coach could be a mistake.

    I would love Cowher but there are a ton of teams that want Cowher to be there Head Coach and he is going to cost a ton of money.

    The guy I think is best suited for the Jets job (it least at this point) is Brian Billick. He runs the 3-4 Defense so we dont have to change our defense back to a 4-3. He has a good winning record 80-64 in the regular season and 5-3 in the playoffs. He is not afraid to get in somebodys face and he has won a Super Bowl as a Head Coach.

    I like Cowher but he is so popular right now and everybody wants him to be their coach. I really like Spagnoula but he would be a rookie HC and he coaches a 4-3 defense with the Giants. So the guy I think would be a good candidate for the Jets Head Coaching posistion if it does in fact become available is Brian Billick.
     
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  2. Tballlz63

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    i'd love to see us break the bank for cowher. i'll pass on spagnoula, he's a great dc but i just don't want anymore rookie head coaches. this on the job training bullshit needs to stop. billick would be a great plan b. as u say both run the 3-4 so we wouldnt have to suffer through another transition.
     
  3. Serphnx

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    Billick is an awful idea. Do you know why he isn't coaching the Ravens anymore? The players got so mad at his awful offense that they basically kicked him out. And I don't mean the players on offense, the guys on defense were pissed. They didn't blame the offense, they blamed him.
     
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    sackexchange Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. I had not heard that before. In his Defense, the Ravens have always been QB challenged up until they drafted Flacco this year. The guy did win a SB with Trent Dilfer. That ought to count for something!!
     
  5. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    If thats true (which I wont argue right now) then maybe it is because they had no QB. I mean they didnt get Flacco until this year. They have had guys like Troy Smith, Kyle Boller, Chris Redman, a washed up Steve McNair, and Trent Dilfer as their QB's. The Jets have pieces in place to have a good offensive football team even without Favre. Obviously they need a QB which isnt always easy to find but their going to need that anyway. At the end of the day the players still have to execute. Unless your telling me that those QB's that Billick has had are not that bad but just coached horribly then I dont believe the struggles on Offense were entirley his fault.
     
  6. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    It's no accident that Billick is gone from Baltimore and one of their good young QB prospects has finally turned out. Billick had a rep as an evaluator of talent at the position and that rep went down in flames over the last half decade.

    Please keep him away from Clemens and Ratliffe and Ainge at all costs.
     
  7. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    The guy has to be doing something right. He has a strong Win loss record as a head coach and won a SB with Trent Dilfer as his QB. The Offense already has some good pieces in place (a good line with two young guys at key spots, Keller, Jones and Washington, and Cotchery). They need a tall number 1 WR and a QB. I have a hard time putting all the blame on Billick for the Ravens QB problems. And I think the Defense will only improve under him as well.
     
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    What he was doing right is working with Ozzie Newsome. Newsome was the Ravens first Director of Football Operations and then became the GM. The Ravens dominance was related directly to Newsome's ability to find great players on a consistent basis for the franchise.
     
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    I'd rather Billick went to Buffalo. We have to have a least one team to beat up on.
     
  10. Serphnx

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    The QB excuse holds no water. One of the points of contention was, with McGahee having a great season, Billick passed 4 times on 1st and goal from the 1 yard line and failed every time. That brought on a lot of vocal questioning by the defensive players, including Ray Lewis. Let me see if I can find it somewhere.

    http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/Ray_Lewis_Calls_Out_Brian_Billicks_Play_Calling/32447

    That's about the best I could find, it's almost like the sources are now covered up. The quotes I had read were very explicit and cracked me up. And not surprisingly to me, Billick was gone by the end of the season. You do not want that guy here.
     
  11. Barry the Baptist

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    I'd rather keep Mangina than bring in Billick to run this franchise into the ground
     
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    You're seriously worried about Cowher being expensive?
     
  13. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    Im not worried about Cowher being expensive really but I know a lot of teams want him to be their Head Coach.
     
  14. al_toon_88

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    No way in hell. Billick would be worse than Mangenius.
     
  15. brothermoose

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    Billick...sounds like another Belichick wannabe...no thanks.
     
  16. kevmvp

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    Yeah cause thats exactly what he did in Baltimore while he was there.

    1999- 8-8 (First Time Franchise finished .500 or better)
    2000-12-4 (Wildcard winners and Super Bowl Champions)
    2001-10-6 (Wildcard Team Lost in second round of playoffs)
    2002- 7-9
    2003- 10-6 (AFC North Champions)
    2004- 9-7
    2005- 6-10
    2006- 13-3 (AFC North Champions)
    2007- 5-11

    Thats an 80-64 regular season record and a 5-3 record in the Post season with 2 Division Championships and a Super Bowl win.

    He's not a great coach and if the Jets can get Cowher then im all for it but this guy wouldnt be a bad option.
     
  17. Firemangini Ed

    Firemangini Ed New Member

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    Billick's coaching career never impressed me, but he does make a good impression when you watch him on tv. He got a reputation as a genius in Minny by being smart enough to throw deep to Moss. He won the SB in BAL with somebody else's defense. Letting Dilfer go was a mistake and even though he knows QBs, he never developed one in BAL and the team was going downhill under his leadership. So put all that together and its not that impressive to me. But I will admit that he makes a good impression working for the NFL Network and I enjoy watching those little segments where he explains the intricacies of some sort of play, like when he explains how audibling changes in the protection works, or what the bunch formation does. I would obviously rather have Billick then Mangini, but if the Jets are willing to pay $13M a year for BF, why not pay up for Cowher?
     
  18. kevmvp

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    I think you might be able to make a case that Billick one the Super Bowl with somebody elses players on Defense but players still have to be coached and he was the coach of the Ravens while this new defense was built around players like Reed, Suggs, McCalister, Rolle, Ngata, Ivy, Scott, and Pryce.

    Those guys were brought in here while Billick was the Head Coach and the Defense has been great for a long time under him. So while he might have won a SB with somebody elses Defense this Ravens defense now is of the championship caliber in my opinion and he was the Head Coach when most of these guys were brought in either via the draft, trades, or FA and he deserves some credit for that.
     

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