Its seems to be a continuing problem for the jets. Finding talent and not utilizing it! I'M wondering what they saw in David Harris ; who to me is beast and will eventually displace someone in the line up (Forever). Are the Jets grading Gholston with Harris as the mold? Is this kid that far behind or is he not ready for the NFL? I think with so much on the line at this point we cant take the risk /reward chances with him at this time.
HAS BT???? NO...like another poster said earlier..I remember reading an article about Thomas and that his father gave him a hard time and that he wasn't going to slack off this year. He looks terrible again. Too many missed tackles, too few impact plays, can't collapse the pocket, and REALLY cannot cover even a fullback out of the backfield. Gholston, on the other hand, in the average 3 plays per game he gets in, I actually see him collapsing the pocket. Even in that Denver game, he didn't get to Cutler but he did force him out of the pocket where Cutler made a ridiculous throw that should have been picked off by any decent pass defense. A player who was a DE will have a tough time switching positions and becoming a coverage 3-4 OLB. But put him in and have him rush the passer, he gets fooled a little by play action and is definitely thinking too much, but get him after the QB. He has to be able to do a better job than Thomas.
Lol, what game are you watching? Gholston gets manhandled at point of attack and doesnt collapse anything but himself. If he was really collapsing the pocket like you say, he wouldn't be inactive last week and ineffective when he is playing. Hell, i could of forced Cutler to make that throw. Any legit pass rusher sacks him on that play.
well stated--If they keep Mangini and play Thomas again next year they get what they deserve--Your OLBs must be your impact players in the 3-4--Thomas has actually stunk it up 1 year longer than Drob did before the jets FINALLY admitted their mistake and moved him (for nothing). Give Gholston a chance--can't do worse
You could of forced Cutler to make that throw?? Cutler would probably have stiff-armed you then gunned it 75 yards down the field haha. If any legit pass rusher could have gotten to Cutler why didn't BT all game?? Look all I'm saying man is that after every game Gholston has gotten some playing time, we are on here the next day saying that he was SO close to getting his first sack. it has to be hard for a guy to switch positions into a complex scheme and be expected to produce. He is not getting playing time because of the way he has looked in practice where I'm sure Sutton and Mangini have him dropping into coverage where he looks lost. Therefore, just get him in and let him go after Seneca Wallace this game..because he has to be able to do a better than BT. BT is soft and isn't even good in coverage so give the guy a rest. Maybe a benching will light a fire under his ass the way being inactive lit one under Gholstons considering mangini siad he had a good week inpractice. I am just happy that us getting Favre has taken a lot of pressure off of Vernon so he can have time to develop without all of us flipping out that its his fault we aren't winning. Mangini does not use the talent the way most other coaches would. I mean comeon, Cody Spencer actually gets playing time and everytime there is an opposing score, hes usually on the field.
There must be a whole lot of fools in profesional sports ans sports casting. In a good article about "if the draft were held today" it lists him as a 2-3 rd pick and I would totally agree. Yet we paid him $21 million in garranteed money. For that much money, if you aren't even activated in week 15, you are a BUST! For that contract you should be a starter week #1, yet he will be very lucky to be a starter in week #1 of next season. Realistically more like week #1 of 2010.
Oh good god, let the excuses rain why dont you? Switching positions or not as has nothing to do with how slow he is on the field. He basically looked like he was treading in water trying to run Cutler down. Cutler isn't exactly Mike Vick either. What other game besides Denver was he close to getting a sack on? Be real too and dont use a game of where the QB had over 6 seconds to throw the ball and Gholston finally got close to him. Jets fans know a bust more then anyone and Gholston has bust written all over him.
i wont go and call him a bust at this point, but i can surely understand why many are and will. the guy has not progressed AT ALL the entire year! i remember talking about him in the preseason and saying i was disappointed that he was not showing any progress. of course i caught a ton of shit for it even though all i was saying is i would like to see him progress and move forward and get better every time he is on the field. it is ABSURD to suggest the guy should start at this point and shows complete and TOTAL lack of understanding or judgement, seriously think about it, disregard what you would like to see out of him and think about what you HAVE seen out of him. then tell me that you think he should be starting. there are many things that people can disagree on and just agree to disagree, this however is just too absurd to even agree to disagree. i hope the kid ends up doing well, its best for the team that he does. however there is no way in hell that i would have any trust in him doing his job properly and being a positive impact in a game. i dont think that the cs has much different of an opinion on that. this is NOT the right time of the year to be trying things out, maybe we should wait until the playoffs to try some stuff out even though it hasnt been productive at practice all year? or maybe we wait until the superbowl and try out eric ainge because he could end up doing something good. seriously, be honest with yourself. also dont take your hatred for bryan thomas and use that to suggest absurd things. fact is he CAN be worse than thomas, he obviously has been worse than thomas in practice or he WOULD BE PLAYING.
There are. Sports isn't exactly rocket science. It's entertainment that was given meaning for whatever reason. And considering this is football...
That doesn't mean anything. Remember last year? They refused to start Clemens for weeks, then just made the switch in the final third or so of the season. Either don't make the switch or make it earlier. This is also the same CS that then got rid of Pennington, and now people are saying Favre sucks so it's not the CS fault that we have an inconsistent offense that is ranked near the middle on everything except points.
1. That first point isn't tally hindsight based... 2. Everything but points...yea, this coaching staff sure put us in a tight spot.
Gholston is the best linebacker on the Jets. He should be playing over everyone. The Jets made him inactive because they don't want him to succeed and get a huge salary when it's time to resign. I agree with you! Let him play and he goes to the Pro Bowl! :up: :breakdance:
I said Jones and Thomas weren't as big a bust but they are considered by most to be the biggest in Jets hiostory. Gholson is, live with it. He will never live up to the 6th pick. Never. He will be lucky to even be playing in 4 years and if you can't see it I feel bad for you.
Blair Thomas was the #2 pick in the draft and never did anything. Gholton will have a difficult time surpassing that. At this point however, one would have to say he was pretty much a wasted pick.
