Plane And Simple, Eric Changes Mind

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  1. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    This is a very positive sign to me that Mangini is willing to stray from his "consistent approach". Whatever they were doing wasn't working.
     
  2. Wolfe Tone

    Wolfe Tone New Member

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    I don't like how he puts the game on one drop
     
  3. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I don't see how he did? He said the problems with the passing game started there. That implies more problems occurred afterward, no?
     
  4. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    He should put it on one drop... the ball he dropped when preparing the team for this game.
     
  5. JetFanInPA

    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

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    That holding penalty stills stands out in my mind. If they go up 21-17, things are different. But hey, they got screwed, but they still should have been able to drive down the field and score. That's their own faults.

    Not only for west coast games should the plans change, but for EVERY GAME. They can't go out with the same lousy defensive gameplan they did against Denver or Buffalo will beat us and JP Losman will look like a Pro Bowl QB.

    I really hope to see TJ getting at LEAST 20 carries on Sunday and I also hope to see the defense put more pressure on Losman by bringing more blitzes which will force him to make poor throws and also make the pass defense look a hell of a lot better.


    And a small note, Jets WRs did better than the author mentions. Stuckey had 4 grabs for 43 yards I believe. With that being said, our recievers still had too small of an impact...
     
  6. Serphnx

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    The only way TJ gets 20 carries is if he's running for 3 yards a pop. That's our OC for you. If they stack the box, it's a running play.
     
  7. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    I think I figured it out:

    This season is a microcosm of Mangini's entire attitude.

    We've been aggressive in some big games and jumped out to leads with good gameplans, resulting in some big wins. When we have the lead, he gets really conservative, the players appear less hungry, and the gameplan looks less creative. This is why we've allowed teams to come back on us.

    At a pivotal point in the season, we climbed atop the Division by beating the Pats and Titans back-to-back, seemingly becoming one of the "teams to beat" in the AFC. Then, at 8-3, with a Division lead, the next two games were completely uncreative, unprepared, and conservative, dropping us to 8-5, and now, having allowed two teams back in the race, we are in a 3-way tie for the Division.

    That, right there, is Eric Mangini in a nutshell -- playing it safe and never going for the kill. Well now it's time to change things because if we don't win out, the Playoffs will be in serious doubt. I'm supporting him and believing he can right the ship; but if he doesn't.......
     
  8. Wolfe Tone

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    Jet wideouts caught two passes in San Francisco for a total of 15 yards, but according to Mangini, the problem with the passing game started with tight end Dustin Keller's drop on the game's first possession.

    "We have the third-and-two and drop it," said the coach. "You're talking about being on the 35-yard line, so get a few yards in field-goal range and who knows?"

    To me it sounds like he blames the beginning of the end on that, if you are an NFL coach something like that should not change the momentum of the game to a large degree.

    He does seem to be sounding more emotional in his last few media, but more in the way of being broken down and hopeless, that scares the shit out of me.
     
  9. Wolfe Tone

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    yup, agreed, it was terrible, I hope we don't see that rising of the acne again next week, thats when we know we are truly finished
     
  10. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    im pretty sure all he meant was if the offense gets points on that drive even if its only a field goal, it would have given some momentum to build on for the rest of the game. instead they drop it, have no momentum, and the rest of the game becomes just like that first drive. filled with missed opportunities.
     
  11. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    One dropped pass on the game's first possession and life as we know it is over. That's a wafer thin margin of error right there.
     
  12. TheBlairThomasFumble

    TheBlairThomasFumble Active Member

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    The bottom line is that we should have been up by two touchdowns against this 49ers team. We played down to our competition, and they out-executed and out-hustled us. They wanted the W more than this NYJ team wanted it.
     
  13. Royce Parker

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    Seriously man. That was not a game-changing play. When is the guy gonna man up and take some of the blame for his poor game planning and preparation - not to mention inability to make adjustments at the half.
     
  14. Wolfe Tone

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    not necessarily as we had momentum going for us on several new big plays such as the fumbles, if he figures one play can completely destroy a team than he is the wrong guy for the job, it reeks a little of throwing your hands up when the milk is spilt instead of cleaning it up and getting back to what you were doing
     
  15. sect105

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    So then Mangini is exactly the same as HERM was??????

    Maybe we should cue up...HEELLLLLOOOOO You play to win the game!
     
  16. nyjetsrule

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    speaking of fumbles wolfe, how did they fumble 6 times and we only recover one? wtf is that?
     
  17. Wolfe Tone

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    yeh thats a mess, we were close on a few, but overall the players look a bit lost and they seem to be second guessing themselves as opposed to reacting, I havent seen this many stops and starts and stutter steps except when watching the lions
     
  18. Steve032

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    Way to blame the game on our Rookie TE who has dropped a few passes this year. i'm sure he'll have the thought of Mangini ripping his head off if he drops another pass this year, which probably won't help. Mangini seems to be getting really angry and losing his poise, and i don't see how this is gonna help our team.
     
  19. Mr. Papagiorgio

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    Why didn't we go for it on 4th and 2 from the S.F. 38? The offense does much better if we get off to a fast start. We'd go for it most other games. That and the failed two short runs by Jones on the next series got us off to a rocky start. They ended up getting the ball at the 20, so we didn't even pin them deep. Singletary went for it twice on 4th down in his own territory and got it twice.
     
  20. packerbacker1234

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    In any game that is a one score game a majority of time: There is no excuse for TJ and Leon to not combine for 30+ rushes.

    I'm sorry, but anytime in a one score game that doesn't happen: Chances are your going to lose. Your a run first football team Magini, get it straight. Let Favre live off the PA, let your offense stay consistent with the running game.
     

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