When you score as many points as the Jets have and you've won 8 out of 12 games there isn't much opportunity for comebacks. There were only 4 games this year that would have even allowed a 2nd half comeback. Besides the Oakland game (jsut because it was close) the team wasn't playing good enough to allow a chance at a comeback anyway.
The offense isn't even centered around Pennington and hes the QB! The offense is CLEARLY centered around Ronnie Brown. OC's aren't notorious for finding ways to take the ball out of their team MVP's hands... Yes, w/o Penny, they would probably have a few less wins because they have NO ONE as a backup. You put Favre on that team and they could just as easily be 7-5 or 8-4.
I wouldn't give Chad much credit if he was the reason we needed a last minute drive to beat an awful team.
Really? Thats interesting. Cause you sure give him a lot of credit for throwing the game clinching INT in week 1... I know, I know, w/o him they wouldn't even be in the game. It was amazing. HE STILL THREW A GAME CLINCHING INT!
He has no weapons to throw to and he led his team back, Miami couldn't run the ball all day and they have no WRs yet he almost pulled off that comeback.
You really are having a tough time with this one, huh? I agree with you! Read my first post. Counting the number of second half or 4th quarter comebacks a quarterback has is complete bullshit! And yes, the only reason we were down to KC late in the 4th quarter was Favre's awful interceptions. But when you say or even imply that Favre's comeback shouldn't be counted (again, I think this stat is worthless) because it was only three points or because he caused his team to be down in the first place, you do great damage to your inherent credibility, as you display an amazing level of intellectual dishonesty. K?
:rofl: of course you are, but the footnote at the bottom of the page says that you set the guidelines for what is considered "fair".
ronnie brown was healthy last year? i thought he had knee surgery must've been some other ronnie brown
I am always fair, I didn't slobber over Favre all year when he wasn't playing great. I have praised him most of the last month. Fair to you is telling everyone how great Favre is, how he gets all credit when his team wins and how his teammates and coaches are to blame when they lose. That's not how I operate, when players/teams deserve praise I prasie them when they deserve critcism I criticize.
I believe the Dolphins were 0-5 when they traded chambers, and 0-6 when they lost brown due to his knee surgery. so yeah brown was around for a while. It was actually the moment after Brown went down, every Jets fan on here called for 0-16. it was a shear miracle the Ravens lost the game in ot. The ravens were just as bad last year as well, but come on, the Lolphins were one of the worst teams in NFL history once brown went down and they traded chambers. this years lions I do believe are fucked, 0-16 here they come, hell i expect 0-20 after the first few games of next year as well.
You're gonna have to show examples of me "slobbering". Your efforts will be futile though. The major difference between you and I is that I realize its a team game and it takes a team effort at ALL times during a game. You pick and choose your points when you want to blame the team or just one player in particular. More often than not, that particular player is Favre. Now just from those comments I've made, you'll make a sweeping generalization by suggesting I'm excusing him for all his bad throws all year. Nothing could be further from the truth, but that's how you roll. Did Favre play like shit last weekend? Yes. However, I still stand by my statement that its difficult to orchestrate a comeback when WRs are dropping relatively easy 4th down passes that would set the team up with a 1st and goal situation. Couple that with some poor coaching decisions and its that much more difficult. That's not excuse making for Favre. Its just simple fact. Its a team game. One guy can only do so much....especially when he's off his game a bit. One dropped ball, one stupid playcall or one blown blocking assignment can change the course of one offensive series, and ultimately the outcome of the game. I'd consider that to be much more fair than your twisted definition.
didn't have a healthy brown in the wildcat either. especially with ricky williams. i'm sure cleo lemon would've been just as productive as chad being split out wide in the formation though.
Let me flip this for ya... And I guess, fair to you is, telling everyone how great Chad is, and how he gets all the credit when his team (Ricky Williams, Ronnie Brown, Wildcat formation) wins and how his teammates and coaches are talent-less when they lose the tough games. Because that IS how you operate. When Chad isn't really producing on the field you still praise him, when he deserves criticism...actually...has he gotten ANY criticism from you in a Dolphins uni this year Junc? I can't recall one time when you've criticized Chad even tho they have 5 losses. That's weird...
The Dolphins had more talent on that team than junc realizes. Biggest difference with them is team and coaching structure around them. Parcells and Sparano are the main reasons Miami is winning some games. Pennington is playing well, but if you put Chad on this team with no Parcells or Sparano, you'd see a team that is lucky to win 2 games.
This is yet again another example of where junc applies CONFLICTING logic . He throws fits when people say that Favre is a major/main reason why the Jets are better. He comes back with the fact that there are plenty of other FA pickups this year so Favre shouldn't get all the credit. Then he acts like Pennington is the only reason they are playing better. No credit to Sparano or Parcells or Porter. And he still has no logical response to the fact that the CS is actually centering the offense around Brown. I mean they were at the forefront this year of actually made it a point to take the ball out of the QB's hands.
