Can someone on this board explain to me, in an intelligent and meaningful way, the seemingly irrational obsession that 90 percent of the posters on this message board have with David Clowney???? People, the guy caught two long touchdown passes in the same game against Cleveland's 2nd and 3rd string secondary. It seems to me that WR is our deepest position on the field, EVEN WITHOUT David Clowney on the active roster. Yes, I agree that he seemed as if he COULD develop into a big time deep threat down the road, however, I'm not sure why so many of you seem CERTAIN that he will. I just am not sure how "obvious" it is that he needs to be on our active roster as a WR at this point in time. There's a lot more to being a WR than running go routes. I just don't understand why everyone's so certain that David Clowney is Al Toon. Anyone care to explain it to me????
we lack gamebreaking speed at WR, Clowney has it. I don't think anyone is sure he's going to do anything but it would be good to see him get a chance to prove if he does or doesn't in a real game.
We don't have a speed receiver. All of our WRs are pretty much the same and don't compliment each other. I'd rather have a Moss and a Welker on my team than two Welkers.
abzymul .. what a joke dude. I dont know where this guy abzymul gets off on his comments, but the jets have a bit of a way to go before their superbowl material year after year. Finally some consistency, but a failure none the less. I see this guy abzymul posting... I dont know what this guys all about.. but he's just a joke on this board.:beer:
We haven't had any true "speed" on this roster since we swapped Santana Moss for LC. We lack a field stretching threat. This is why we're up on Clowney until our CS/FO decides to replace Keyshawn and Santana in a draft..
I share your puzzlement, although after expressing it a couple months ago, I've stayed out of it since. David Clowney was drafted by the Green Bay Packers and so I got to watch him play a lot in the preseason for them. I remember he was fast, but also that he simply could not catch the ball very well (at least not then), he does not have good hands. The Packers cut him the same year they drafted him. Maybe he's improved greatly since then, but I know what I know, and what I saw, and until I see something different this is all just wild fantasy. Just exactly how many WR cut by their original drafting team went on to become great receivers, I wonder? Have there been any?
I said to look out for him before the preseason even started. He has great speed (4.29-4.35) and good size (6 feet tall) and a pair of great hands. The one touchdown I can find online wasn't on a go-route, he ran a post to the middle of the field, caught the ball between the safeties and used his speed to take it to the endzone. Everyone wants to see him play because we know what we've got with Coles/Cotch/Smith/Stuckey, but we've only seen Clowney in preseason and we want to see if his skills will carry over to the regular season and if he can realize his tremendous potential.
Yeah, I guess people are dazzled by his speed but don't really appreciate that it take a lot more than game breaking speed to be a great receiver, let alone a great deep threat. This is not to say that Clowney couldn't develop into a a really good receiver but people on this board talk of him like he likely will. I just haven't seen enough from him to warrant that suspicion. I mean, again, he caught two long touchdown passes against the 2nd and 3rd string secondary of the Cleveland Browns. He looks like a talented player. But the coaching staff ses him every day in practice. (In fact, he won 'practice player of the week' a few weeks ago. They have been pretty good at evaluating talent in the past. I trust that they would play him if they thought he was anything special at this point.)
Right but he did that against back-up players. (and probably a few players that didn't even make the Browns' secondary or are currently inactive like himself) And I have no idea how you know that he has "great hands". Again, I trust the coaching staff who sees him every day in practice, to play him if he really is turning into something special or if they think he can add something substantial to this offense.
Well we've seen this guy play a couple of times in pre-season and he made a couple of big catches over the top.... we haven't seen anyone do that on our team since... uhmm... that Carter guy back in the day. Now if Clowney is Carter part deux, then no thanks, because 1 trick poneys are indeed a waste of a roster spot.... But as a fan, I get the impression that Clowney CAN do more... am I wrong?.. possibly... I'd like to assume that our coaching staff knows better, but you know.. we're starting to wonder if CP was really the problem when it came to deep throws.... Yes I know, Favres short lasers are much better than CPs timing routes, so I'm not saying that Favre is not an improvement over Favre, but as a fan I do want to see that pretty deep ball land in the hands of one of our receivers IN STRIDE and have him high step his arse into the end zone.
I've seen a great number of rookie receivers have trouble catching in the NFL. They get better after a season or two.
That's where I think Clowney can help. He could be this generation's Wes Walker given the chance. We'll never know what the kid can do unless he gets a chance to show it.
By the way, another thing that people almost NEVER consider when demanding that wallace Wright or Brad Smith be taken out of the active Wide receiver group in place of Clowney, is that both of those guys are superb (pro-bowl quality) special teams players. Clowney has shown no such usefullness. I would say Wallace Wright and Brad Smith are among the biggest reasons why we have one of the best kickoff coverage units in the NFL.
I think most of us consider this... their STs contributions are invaluable and have forced opponents into sh1t field positions many times. I'm more for a Clowney for Stuckey swap...
Do we really play all 53 guys on the active roster every week? There has got to be someone down near the end of the bench than can take a weekend off.
Because we want to see what Clowney can do. His speed is something we can use and he is a deep threat that we don't have on the roster. Not saying he is an all-pro or pro bowl player but if we don't play him in real games how will we know what he has. Clowney was gonna make the team out of preseason if he didn't get injured.
This is what I hear from my friends in the scientific community: Clowney is about to announce he just cured the common cold. Then he is going to cure cancer, after the month off for curing that, he is going to get activated........... So relax people, mankinds savior will be here playing, rest assured.
Kellen Clemens had some good handoffs against the Rams, but that's the only time he's seen the field ...
I understand a lot of where you're coming from. There is no guarantee that Clowney will be a "great" receiver. I don't even care if hes a "great" receiver. Just so long as hes capable. I understand that last year he had some trouble with his hands. The thing is, Stuckey doesn't really add anything to this receiving core. He's essentially the same as Coles/Cotch. I think it would benefit our passing game GREATLY to have more options to go to. Especially when teams start cheating up to stop the screen passes and quick slants. Someone said it earlier, but it truly is like having 3 Wes Welker's on the field with no Moss to compliment him. Do you really think that Welker would even be half as effective without Moss? I understand that Moss is FAR AND AWAY better than Clowney will be. Also, don't you like the way that TJ and LW are COMPLIMENTS to eachother? I don't think our running game would be half as effective if we had two TJ's or two LW's. Some teams are just better at stopping certain types of players. This is why it would be extremely beneficial to have a variety of options to attack certain defenses weaknesses with.
