2 Scary Observations From Yesterday's Game

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  1. NYJets4EverOnTop

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    1. We do not have a defense good enough to win the Super Bowl, plain and simple. I don't care how bad everyone thinks our pass coverage is, we just flat out can't pressure the QB. I can't remember the last time I actually saw a clean sack by a LB or DL on our team.

    2. Was it Favre or did our receivers just not get open all game? It seemed like Favre had plenty of time to throw the ball all game but was never able to find anyone. Was it just him not reading the defense and making bad throws or was everyone covered? The Broncos pass D is not that good to be blanketing our receivers like that. This is a huge concern going forward.
     
  2. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I think when our D is right they can play w/ anyone but they need help from the O and the O didn't help the D just as the D didn't help the O yesterday
     
  3. NYJets4EverOnTop

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    The O doesn't help the D get pressure on the QB. I can't remember the last time we got clean pressure on a QB for even one half of a game (whether we blitz or not).
     
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    Wolfe Tone New Member

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    D got tired yesterday you could see it easily, especially wih Barton, Bowens and Pace. that is on the offense's shoulders
     
  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Things are very different playing from behind. The D did get important stops but when the O can't score and is truning it over it's hard to win.
     
  6. NYJets4EverOnTop

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    I agree the offense didn't help them, and could be seen late in the game. But that is no excuse for the first half performance of the D (both run and pass).
     
  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The D only gave up 10 1st half points, as poorly as they played they kept us in it. That was a game the O was going to have to win and they weren't up for it. Chalk it up to one bad game, I am confident we'll bounce back.

    My one concern is Brett in bad weather, he hasn't been great in bad weather later in his career(I know he played well against Seattle but outside of that game...) and he looked totally uncomfortable from the first snap through the last snap yesterday.
     
  8. Big Blocker

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    Bad tackling by the D fed into a team wide flatness. These guys underestimated Denver, a team that will probably make the playoffs. The CS was outcoached.

    What this means for the overall Jet season depends on their play from here on out. Whether it becomes a wake up call, or a game that a better CS succeeded in showing where the Jets still have glaring weaknesses, remains to be seen.

    That about covers it.
     
  9. JUNJOBX2199

    JUNJOBX2199 New Member

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    Either we played a very conservative game plan on the defensive side of the ball or we have no pass rush to speak of. If we Blitzed ; I didn't see it. I mentioned it before Belichick exposed us and shanahan went right after our soft underbelly! now opposing teams have a target ,so lets hope they work on this , as well as the on again off again passing communication. we looked desperate out there and that's a bad sign!

    Was it greatness or smoke and mirrors we have been watching?
     
  10. GreenBleeder69

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    Jets D is 5th in the NFL in sacks, 2nd in the AFC so they've been pressuring the QB all year. As for yesterday, Denver is ranked number 1 in sacks allowed (only giving up 8 all year) so no one can get pressure on Cutler.
     
  11. NYJets4EverOnTop

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    I didn't say our defense was horrible, just not super bowl caliber. Super Bowl caliber defenses will find a way to get pressure even if that means sending 5-6 guys (see Steelers).
     
  12. Jet Blue

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    This D has been just getting by without David Harris for weeks and has been vulnerable...

    When the offense controls the clock it's ok, when it does not, it is not pressuring the QB and has to make up for the loss of a Pro Bowl caliber player..

    Granted, every team has injuires - The Jets can't afford to be without Harris for a playoff run though.
     
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    Great coaches like Shanahan and Beli know where are weakness is and they exploit it. We have no rush from our De's so they throw 50 times a game. I don't care who is in the secondary if we get no pass rush they will eventually get beat.
     
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    And what's your excuse for all the other games where the Jets gave up a ton of yardage?
     
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    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    The D doesn't match up well with passing teams we like to defend the pass with nickel and dime packages and we frankly don't have great talent when we go 5, 6 and 7 in the d backfield.

    Favre doesn't seem to be able to throw the deep ball with authority anymore which is limiting our passing game. He looks sharp in the 5 to 20 yards in the middle of the field but when you saw him compared to Cutler it was obvious we were over matched.
     
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    Jets are fifth in the NFL in sacks with 34
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The only game we won b/c of the O was the 2nd NE game. Otherwise it has been our D and STs that have carried us most of the year.
     
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    The D didn't play a great game all around, but I didn't see any blitzes! If you just bring in 6 DBs and sit back in coverage Cutler is going to pick you apart. The secondary is definitely our weakness but lack of blitzing is only going to expose that more. The run D looked terrible but what do you expect when the O can't stay on the field. Favre couldn't find anyone because we gave up on the run so early and they knew it. Jones had great numbers but that doesn't reflect his actual playing time.
     
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    The Broncos D is suppose to be so bad and they dominated us in the Passing game i mean No Champ Bailey and our receivers were still shut out for the most part. Terrible Game.
     
  20. packerbacker1234

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    I think what we saw with Brett yesterday wasn't so much that he can't play well in bad weather anymore (unless it's like, extremely windy and cold, via the two games against Chicago last season), but it's the fact that while he has gotten more and more comfortable with the offense and the playbook, he still isn't nearly as comfortable as he would of been running a GB team in that same weather. He doesn't know the tendacies of his WR's.

    The first couple drives showed this. Favre was rifling balls, hitting guys right in the hands, and they just flat out dropped them. Something tells me that the comfort level isn't there yet for those bad weather games. Will it be? I think by the time playoffs roll around, it will. For now?

    Thank god they have what should be some cupcake games till miami. The thing with the Bronco's is it all depends on what offense shows up for them: And yesterday tired or not, they made the defense just look really slow. Ty Law got burnt early, and that really set the tone for the bronco's offensively. Jay Cutler just had one hell of a football game. He backed up his smack talk this week.

    But, it's like everyone was saying on the radio today: Do you honestly think that Denver is better then the jets? Hell, the raiders better then both Denver and the Jets? No, and no sensible person would think so. However, there are playoffs at the end of the year, and it all sorts itself out.

    Jets are still considered as 1 of the 3 current real contendors in the AFC: Tennesee, Pittsberg, and the Jets. Colts are on the cusp, but had a shit showing in a win yesterday.

    The best part is? This loss didn't really hurt us. We're still pretty much right where we were before this weekend started, so we are ok. We could afford to drop a game, and really we can most likely still afford to drop one more and still be playoff bound. Things will sort themselves out, and at the end of the season, the jets will still be legit SB contendors in the AFC.

    Hopefully, we'll get the Bronco's at some point in the playoffs, to pay them back for this.
     

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