Getting way ahead of ourselves, but playoff football, usually the better teams win because they are more physical. There could be some game specific "tricks" on bad matchups like the Giants Superbowl vs. the Bills when they only rushed two lineman. But, for the most part, you do not wait until the playoffs to unleash something new.
there is no secret play that can ever guarantee a score, and if you hold anything back you inherently aren't playing to win. there is no guarantee we will play them again, but there is a guarantee we will play them this week and the result will directly affect how our season plays out. I'm not sure why you would even think the team would be thinking about a what if scenario at the expense of the what is scenario. clearly, the person who came up with the phrase there are no stupid questions never imagined the internet.
there is a huge difference. using a play that only will work once (which is the boundary you set to the play) only affects one game, Harris getting hurt affects the entire season. not sure how you think the two situations which have two entirely different results are even remotely similar.
if you are quoting me with "balls to the wall, all in" you didn't read my next sentence saying "unless a player is injured"
Absolutely, all in; whatever it takes this Sunday. Always play for the now. We don't even know what the weather will be like if we see the Titans in January; the entire game plan could change in a matter of hours due to weather.
so coaches never avoid certain schemes one week (thus the game film) because they know those very schemes will be invaluable the following week against a different team? playing the titans sunday is meaningless compared to facing them in the playoffs, which is almost certain. mangini will 'set the titans up' on sunday, win or lose, and then WHAM in the playoffs. for example, mangini may play the titans straight up, 7man fronts, no blitzing, win or lose, only to send the house plus the flight attendants in the playoffs. think of sunday's game as the 'first half' with the playoff game as the 3rd and 4th qtr. if you don't (or can't) then you're no head coach. it's not a simple as 'throw everything you have at every opponent every game'. just aint.
I think it is a mistake if the Jets play too conservatively this week. If the Jets win, it is a huge step toward ensuring home field in the post season. If the coaching staff identifies a situation where a certain play will work well, I would expect them to use it to win now. Wins later will have to be taken care of then. In order to win in the playoffs we'll need as many advantages as we can get, that includes staying out of other team's stadiums. Play to win the game.
How is playing the Titans in the playoffs almost certain? I have high hopes too, but we've got a lot of games to go before that's decided. Secondly, sure no coach can run everything they have in their playbook in every game, but to hold off on running a particular play, or worse an entire game plan, just in the hope of surprising the same team with it in a hypothetical playoff game down the road is silly. I truly hope the Jets coaches would not take that approach. Not that they should go out and use every trick play they have in the book this Sunday just for the hell of it, but we should all hope that they come out with whatever they think is the best game plan to win THIS game. Whether that includes revealing some surprises or not - doesn't matter - no coach worth their salary is going to hold off on the right play at the right moment because they want to save it for later.
I think we should wear our throwbacks so they don't see the "jets" til the playoffs. woot. No Jets losses this week
I assure you, Mangini isn't going to sacrifice the game on Sunday in order to trick them in case we meet in the playoffs. good teams don't care if you know what you are going to throw at them, they execute and beat you anyway. there is a big difference between not using every play you have because you don't need them and purposefully not using a play you have in a situation you do need it so they don't know you have it if you have to play them again. there is a big difference between the two, which again I don't know how you are confusing. coaches never do that, and that is what you are attempting to claim. what you are saying is if the Jets are down by 6 with one second left at Tennessee's 10 yard line, and have a trick play that is guaranteed to score, Mangini won't run it just in case he needs it later just it in case they meet in the playoffs and face the same situation. that's ludicrous.
The only time you might do that is at the end of the regular season when you can't improve your postseason seed. Even then some coaches want to play to win as the Giants did last year in week 17 against NE.
The only scenario where I could see this play out is if it were the last /next to last game of the season and we had already secured our seed in the play-offs. Other than that, you gotta be "ALL IN" "BALLS TO THE WALL" etc.
I think the way the Giants played vs. NE week 17 played a big part in believeing they could beat them in the SB. Always throw the kitchen sink at your opponent for 60 minutes. Remember how people complained about how Bellicheck ran up the score? No mercy. Hear that Eric?
why didn't miami break out the wildcat on us the last play of the game, down 6? they had it. they practiced it. but they saved it for ne. if good teams play 'their game' no matter what, then why does ne play us different every time we play them? in the end a good team shows ONLY as much as it has to to win the game. if the g-girls can power run jacobs 30 times and win, then that's all they're gonna show. so if we're up by 21 in the 4th qtr and have the opportunity to run our golden trick play for 7 more points we should run it? balls out right? leave nothing on the field? or take a chance on a 21 point lead and save the trick play for another day.
your own argument disputes your own position. if the purpose is to not show all your cards in one game, Miami would have waited until they played NE a second time, or even later in the season, and not showed the play the first time they played NE or so early in the season, wouldn't they? are you seriously comparing a team using a play in the third game of the season, and not in the first with waiting until the playoffs when it will matter -- which is your position on the matter. you're all over the place and contradicting yourself consistently. Miami showed the wildcat in the third game of the season -- that hardly equates to waiting until the playoffs. you really should be embarrassed by your arguments. I am for you. they don't, they just add new elements to their existing style of play, or adjust in game. exactly, but that wasn't your initial position. your initial position was that they wouldn't show certain plays, even if they need it, not that they would only show enough to win. big difference between the two, which I already addressed. so, are you now changing your initial argument? again, you are all over the place and contradicting yourself. nobody has even come close to arguing that. how about you address the points that have been brought up instead of making up ridiculous scenarios that you can dispute. by that logic of leaving it all on the field, a team would also run its secret trick play with 1 second left and up by 30. clearly, when the game is in hand, your don't have to do as much, that isn't the scenario anyone is talking about. we're talking about a close game that is winnable, which you are saying even so the coaching staff will hold back on plays. thaht's ludicrous.
