Stuckey blamed for INT- Boland

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Kentucky Jet, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. Kentucky Jet

    Kentucky Jet Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    5,612
    Likes Received:
    15
    Jets receiver Stuckey blamed for interceptionBY ERIK BOLAND | erik.boland@newsday.com
    October 28, 2008
    FLORHAM PARK, N.J. - Peyton Manning once said every interception has its own story, and the story of Brett Favre's third one Sunday - it was returned 91 yards for a TD by Brandon Flowers - revolved around second-year receiver Chansi Stuckey.

    Jets coach Eric Mangini yesterday all but blamed Stuckey - as did CBS' game commentators - for the result of the play.

    "Yeah, he should have kept going on that," Mangini said of Stuckey's running of his route. "Worst-case scenario, if the guy does catch it, you have to be able to make the tackle. It's a turnover, but it's not a turnover which results in a touchdown, and he could do a lot better job on that play of finishing that route."

    The typically pleasant Stuckey sounded annoyed when asked what he could have done better.



    "I mean, I could have just, I guess, tried to grab the guy and get an offensive pass interference [penalty] before the ball was thrown because he was in front of me," Stuckey said. "So that's really all I could have done."

    Earlier, Stuckey, though it wasn't intentional, seemed to offer an indictment of the predictability of offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer's play call.

    "He kind of recognized it from the first time," Stuckey said of Flowers. "We had kind of beat them up pretty good on that play in the first quarter on a third down. He recognized it and jumped inside. I tried to get inside him but he kind of gave me a little bump that got me off my route and I kind of bumped into the safety and he just kind of kept running and the ball came right to him and he just made a play."



    Chatman likely done

    Mangini said RB Jesse Chatman, who has only 13 total yards, probably is out for the rest of the year with a knee injury. Chatman was hurt during a kickoff return in the second half of Sunday's game. "Odds are, it's going to be season-ending," Mangini said.

    As for the "hip" injury suffered by LB David Harris, Mangini said it wasn't an aggravation of the hamstring injury that limited the second-year linebacker much of the preseason.

    "Could be something that's soreness, could be something that's a little bit longer," Mangini said. Mangini also said Favre isn't experiencing any arm trouble, just "general soreness."
     
  2. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,435
    Stuckey certainly deserves PART of the blame but even if he keeps running that ball gets picked b/c he is double covered. It was a bad decision.
     
  3. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2007
    Messages:
    22,432
    Likes Received:
    3
    Wasn't he held on the play and no penalty was called.
     
  4. HardHitta

    HardHitta Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    6,174
    Likes Received:
    234
    Favre was throwin into the Double coverage all game but on that play stuckey was beat and didnt fight for the ball and it was picked but favre is at fault aswell.
     
  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,435
    I'm sure a few of the other INTs were the fault of his receivers as well, INTs aren't always the fault of the QB just as sacks aren't always the fault of the OL.
     
  6. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2005
    Messages:
    15,454
    Likes Received:
    393
    Clearly. I watched the tape last night. He gets grabbed and the grabber slides infront of his left shoulder, gaining position.

    Also on the return Leon gets tripped.
     
  7. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Messages:
    13,104
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    Before the ball was thrown, contact less than five yards from the LOS would not be illegal. I have not seen the clip but at the time I saw it I did not believe Stuckey was more than five yards downfield. That's another reason why the call was a risky one - contact from a defender can disrupt the timing and not be illegal.

    I do think he should have continued his route, but the most revealing thing said was that Flowers apparently remembered the play from earlier in the game. The OC can share in the blame as well.
     
  8. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2004
    Messages:
    27,177
    Likes Received:
    14,477
    1. Stuckey was held.
    2. Team should not have been in shotgun mode on 3rd and 2.
    3. Someone could have made the tackle before Flowers scored.
    4. Favre should not have made that pass.
    5. Wow, lets move on that game sucked!
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,435
    3rd and 2 is a tough down to run, I have no proeblem w/ them spreading out the D. The problem was the bad decision by favre and Stuckey not fighting hard enough.
     
  10. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2004
    Messages:
    27,177
    Likes Received:
    14,477
    Oh, I forgot to say against the worst run D in the league, up by 4.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,435
    The problem is if we line up in a jumbo formation and do not get the first down then people will complain about that. even against bad run D's 3rd and 2 is tough in a bunched up formation.
     
  12. Kentucky Jet

    Kentucky Jet Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    5,612
    Likes Received:
    15
    The problem is that if our HC insists on throwing any player(s) under the bus, then whole team WILL come apart! If he finds fault with how STUCKEY played, he should just take him aside and talk with him in private. it should NEVER be done in public! That is plain: WRONG!
     
  13. buddapaw

    buddapaw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2003
    Messages:
    3,614
    Likes Received:
    240
    Well if we didn't get in at least we would get a FG which sure as hell beat a pick six. It was a dumb pass in traffic on the shortened field bad play call. Shotty has been Shitty lately.
     
  14. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2004
    Messages:
    27,177
    Likes Received:
    14,477
    All he knows is it is not Schottenheimer,his, or Sutton's fault. Thats for sure.
     
  15. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2004
    Messages:
    27,177
    Likes Received:
    14,477
    If lately means, the last 2 seasons then yes, I agree.
     
  16. brothermoose

    brothermoose Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2006
    Messages:
    7,382
    Likes Received:
    35
    Good, call out BS's BS!
     
  17. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    21,158
    Likes Received:
    8,027
    I agree, poor choice, he forced that pass and had no chance of completion on it...
     
  18. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Messages:
    9,495
    Likes Received:
    2,306
    Jumbo formation is the only running formation, right? Brilliant.
     
  19. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Messages:
    9,495
    Likes Received:
    2,306
    Completely agree on this one. This is one of the reasons that turned me against Peyton Manning - after a loss early in his career, during the press conference, he had the balls to throw the entire OL under the bus, by saying "I am trying to be a good teammate, Ok? Let's just say the protection wasn't very good." What a leader, eh? Must have injected newfound enthusiasm for this "leader," right?

    That aside:

    1. This offense just flat refuses to attack the weakness of the opposing defense. It's flabberghasting.

    2. To make the matter worse, they seem to "recycle" the plays. What a great way to nurture "anticipation" to the opposing defense!

    I'm quickly losing my respect for that retard...
     
  20. wewantsapp

    wewantsapp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    Messages:
    2,374
    Likes Received:
    1,046
    Excellent point.

    Mangini seems to do this a little more often than I would like. Its not like Singletary in SF calling out Davis for that dumb unsportsmanlike penalty. Mangini loves to find blame, but is reaching here finding blame on a kid in his 7th professional game as opposed to a 17yr veteran throwing into a well covered receiver inside the red zone in the 4th quarter up by 4 points.

    Someone must have told Mangini that Ben Graham was out of the country & couldnht be blamed for the loss, so he had to pin it all on Stuckey.
     

Share This Page