Like Herm once said, "You play to win the game". We won the game. Period. I'll drink to a win any day!! :beer:
What the hell are u talking about man? Does your record EVER show how you won a few games? If so, why do you refer to last season as a 4-12 season? We lost 7 damn games last season by one score. Can we say 2007 was a 4 wins, 7 almost wins, and 5 blow out losses season? You probably don't even get my point cause you people are just simply dumb enough to have some common sense!!! I said it before on this board. If u wanna fuckin go in to the details of HOW we won, then consider this stupid fucking point...Favre threw a pick 6 late in the game. If it wasn't for that one play, we would have wound up getting those 7 points, not KC. The damn score would have read 35-17, no 28-24. It would have been a blow out game had it not been for that one pick. How u win the games...bla bla bla... Fools like you will focus on the final score and still say HOW you win...makes no damn sense. When u talk about HOW, you have to talk about these details. U can just say we beat them by only 4 points. BULLSHIT. Some really gay stupid nuthead darksiders are here on the board and its a shame. If we lose to Titans by 4 points, they will still say we suck. If we beat them by 4 points, they will say it was luck...or fluke. Just get a damn clue will ya???
U wanna know what happens next yr? Assume this: Brady comes back and is at full swing. We somehow convince NE to trade for him and we land brady. We give up our next 10 first rounders...whatever. Are you gonna be pumped up if that happens? Do you think we would be a better team? I certainly think so. I think we'll be a superbowl contenders before the season even begins... Then on the second drive, Brady gets knocked out the game and his season is over. In comes the great unproven backup QB. How about the season now? On the line or over? probably over. Having a great QB never secures the damn future...its just a hope. Point is...next year still has about another 44 wks left. I think we need to worry about next wk...not the week after 44 wks...What do you think Mr. Think Tank????
Saying "cheers" after every win as if everything is fine and dandy is dangerous in the land of professional sports. I'll ask for more improvement, and want a dominant, mean team on the field. Win is a win is naive.
If it was one week or even just 2 weeks I wouldn't be very upset but for 3 straight weeks we have played poorly and the only game offensively we have played well in out of 7 was the Ari game. I felt good after the Cincy game b/c Favre and the O were horrible but we still pulled away and won, had we come back the next week and played well I woul dhave felt better but we have played worse each week since that Cincy game and those aren't good signs. whether he throws 2,3 or whatedver he is in a bad INT streak right now. He has thrown 10 in the last 5 games, you aren't going to win alot of games when you QB is throwing 2 INTs a game and also turning it over by fumbling. He has 13 TOs this year in 7 games. That is way too many. You can blame the coaches all you want but this is on favre, we had the same philosophy against ARi and he played great so no excuses about the coaches. This is on favre who unfortunately has looked like the 2000-2006 vresion rather than the 2007 version. I didn't expect 2007 Favre but I expected him to look more like '07 than '06 and that hasn't been the case. He has been a colossal disappointment SO FAR but hopefully that changes beginning this week. If he goes out and leads us to a win at Buf all will be forgiven. I get the point but you are comparing winning SBs to beating maybe the worst team in the league. Beating a good team in the SB in a close game is one thing, heck beating KC by 4 would have been ok if they had showed us something against the 2 lousy opponents they played the 2 previous weeks but against 3 of the worst teams in the NFL we barely escaped w/ 2 wins and could have lost all 3. We don't have to win by 20 but I would at least like to see us improve instead of playing worse each week.
This team struggled to win a game against a team that is one of the worst in the NFL. We now have the hardest part of our schedual ahead of us. Do you really see us winning against teams with winning records? Where's the joy?
Exactly, I said last week that even if we won against KC it wouldn't be a big deal, but we almost lost the game. So, what does that prove, nothing, we looked bad again. We are suppose to be getting better every week not go backwords. You can tell who the young fans on this board is and who has been dealing with this shit forever.
Every team that lost this week wishes they won even if they played like shit.....A win is just that a win and a lost is just that a lost!!!!
Right now, the trade for Favre is looking just plain awful. I will go out and say right now that we would be no worse off with Pennington at the helm vs. Favre and maybe we would be 1 game better in the W department. Given all of the talent we acquired in the off-season we should be doing better than we are. We looked very out-of-synch at times. That may have carried value when it was the beginning of the season with Favre, but not now after 7 games and a bye week. We just are not playing anywhere near our potential. Defensively we have improved against the run and our sacks are up, but we ar getting burned over the middle on passing on a consistent basis. Offensively, our line has been so-so. We have not really established that we can run the ball when we want to. And, we have the tools to do it. While TJ still continues to be mediocre, Washington deserves much more playing time (the guy is giving 100%). As a die hard fan I am not satisfied with what I have seen out of much of anybody; except Washington. Gholston - We are 7 games into the season and virtually no production at all. I don't buy it any longer that he is still adapting and learning our defensive system. What, did the guy have a Wunderlic of like 2 or something? GMAB. I am very worried at this point and I have every right to be. We are probably going to end up giving up a 2 rounder for Favre and we lost a 3 and a 5 for Jenkins. I guess we will get something back for Vilma, but it sure does not look like we will be a factor in the draft next year and it is still clear that we are a couple of decent players away yet. Plus by cutting Pennington we didn't get a dime for him in a draft pick-up. I do not care what anyone says, Pennington was at least worth a 3rd or 4th rounder (objectively). We have 4 hard games coming up and if this team does not put it together we will be lucky to win one of them; that would put us at 5-6 and the odds of running the table for the rest of the year would be very stacked against us. Personally, if we are serious contenders for a playoff berth then we should take 3 out of 4 of those games; now ask yourself, with the way we are playing does this make any sense? I don't think so. Right now it is on the coaches and the players to sh.......t or get off the pot; enough is enouogh already.
Lost to Oakland, barely beat a crappy MIA team, barely beat the Chiefs. For those of you who say that posters are overreacting, sit down. What people see is the writing on the wall- that the 2008 NY Jets are nowhere near the level where a playoff-ready team should be, that over the course of the last few games the team has been playing unmotivated, mistake-ridden football. People are pissed that our talent on the team has improved (on paper) exponentially when compared to last year, but to date outside of some flashes of brilliance they resemble your father's "same old Jets." Don't give me the crap "A win is a win," etc. A win is NOT a win when you barely scrape by against arguably the one of the 3 worst teams in the NFL. A win is NOT a win when your coaches cant outscheme Herman Edwards. A win is NOT a win when you fail to exploit the other team's weaknesses for your benefit. A win is NOT a win when you see that the coaches are failing to respond to putrid losses from the week before and call better plays on the field which serve to highlight the talent of the players. I'm starting to think that instead of Shittenheimer and Sutton that the Jets should scout the "Madden Challenge" this year and land the 2 best gamers to fill the vacant slots. God knows that things couldn't get any worse on the play-calling side. Also, Eric- I know that you try and play the whole "I'm the 2nd coming of Bill Bellichek" to a T, but enough of your blaise style, which isn't doing anything to improve your image. How about playing with some heart, some emotion, rather than trying to see how many times you can chew a piece of gum for the camera every time they pan to you, with that dumb, uniterested look on your face. Maybe if you had some balls and fire it could possibly trickle down to your players.
You are totally missing the point. We are concerned because last Sunday's game showed that we are far, far, far, far away from being a team of SB caliber
A win is a win in the standings, but in itself is not a strong predictor of future performance. Of course. So is "a win" against KC at home by four points a strong indicator that the team will do well now that the team moves on from one of the weakest sisters in the league? Hardly. Why there's even an OP like this given the nature of the game and where the Jets are right now is not apparent to me. "A win is a win." Yeah, and that means the chances of beating a strong team right now are what?
A win is a win, an ugly win counts just the same as a good looking win in the standings. Jets have not played well these last 3 weeks but have won 2 of them and positioned themselves for a run at the mediocre division. Every game isn't an indicator of future success or failure, sure the Jets have to play better then they played against KC, just as Buffalo has to play better then they did vs Mia and so on. This division is up for grabs and for the first time in what seems to be forever there is no dominant or even really good team in it. Brett Favre especially needs to start playing better, he is the main culprit in this 3 game swing of bad football.
At what point do you stop blaming the players, and start blaming the coaches? If it's true that they are "match up specific", as to thier game planning, why do we run against bad pass defense teams, and pass against bad run defense teams? Somethings really wrong with that philosophy, no? The Giants played a statement game against the Steelers, and rose to the challange. When do we start to make a statement? If we beat Buffalo, everyone will say the Bills aren't that good. The games we've been playing are not only bad, they're unwatchable. If we cannot beat the Dullphins, Bradyless Pats, Raiders,Chiefs, convincingly, or at all, what does that say about this team, or coaching staff? I, for one, will not call this season a success to make the playoffs as a wild card team, and be knocked out in the first round. With Brady going down, and all our FA aqusitions, anything less then a division title is a complete failure. One and done, is not a success story. At least not in my book.
As compared to judging the team by their worst played game of the season? Yea, ok. You guys look at the bottom line when it comes to a loss, now alluva sudden theres shades of gray?
If Favre doesn't throw inteceptions and the pass D stiffens I see no reason why not. Whether that happens or not is another matter. That's why they play the games. Lost in all of this "mess" against the Chiefs is that the Jets scored 28 points (should have been 31 if not 34) and had well over 400 yards of offense - without the benefit of any defensive forced turnovers. So if Favre continues to throw 2-3 interceptions a game then it's likely that the Jets will not win a majority of the games in the harder part of the schedule. If he stops throwing into double coverage and the D can get more consistent pressure on the QB and start covering in the middle better (perhaps with an extra DB rather than LB) then the Jets can win any of these upcoming games. What this sason has told us is that every game is different and last weeks performance doesn't equate with next weeks performance.
