Seriously, i don?t get why every opposing QB has a field day against us. We got a good Passrush, Revis is a great CB and Rhodes a great S. Lowery is a solid #2 CB, sure he?s a rookie and makes some mistakes, but it?s not like he gets abused week in and week out. LBs aren?t exactly great in coverage, but they should get the job done, especially with the good passrush. Eric Smith sucks, thou. So why the hell do we have one of the worst pass-Ds in the League? I just can?t come up with a good explanation.
No pressure on the QB unless its a sack. A pressure would help because these young QBs would get rattled and make a bad decision. They either get sacked, or have all day to throw. Sutton does not put constant pressure on the pocket. Teams have figured this out and the backups and young top picks are beating the secondary with all that extra time. Bob Sutton needs to go.
Is Lowery really that good? I don't mean good for a rookie or good for 4th round pick, I mean for a starting CB, is he really that good? Where are the interceptions for this supposed natural ball hawk?
WHen I rewatch the games the two things that stick out the most are. - Defenders with their back to the ball - The Crossing Route -The 1st is a practice the JETS have been using for a few years and I FUCKIN HATE IT!! The difference is that the DB is playing the receiver by reading his eyes and trying to time it. Most of the time It just doesn't work. they turn too late or get hit with a PI or beat. In the Arizona game Revis INT came when he was Facing the QB "head in the backfield" but the coaches don't like that cause it leads to biting on the play action and getting beat deep. Gee, what do you know? A scared tactic. -The 2nd has really been obvious this year. Especially in the SD & ARI games. When the JETS line up in their 3-4 with the LB's out wide it creates a crease in the D that leaves the Crossing route WIDE OPEN. They have yet to try and "fix" it. It killed us in SD on 3rd Downs while we were in 3-4 or Nickel and teams know this which is why you see Coleman and Smith getting torched often across the middle. Rewatch the games and look at our D. There are NO Adjustments made during the game. We show our hand when we line up and rarely if ever show variations. IOW, very Vanilla.
I never said Lowery is good, I said he´s a solid #2 CB. And when you give him some time to get more comfortable in this League, he´ll get more agressive and jump some routes. I never really realized that, was that also used pre-Mangini? I know we got a problem with our "low hole", but it can´t just be that one play, can it? Yeah, what is Sutton paid to do, thou?
We've had this same problem in the short-intermediate routes all year. It stems from poor communication/technique in the hook-curl zones.... Time and time again we see a LB pass a receiver on to the next zone, and the next LB or S or whoever completely unaware that the receiver has entered his zone.... This is an issue that stems directly from poor/lack of coaching...
theres alot of plays where we blitz heavy and it gets picked up completely. ANYONE can make a throw on a defense like that. and its sad that it happens so often. theres alot of times where you see our defense get the push off the ball but almost nobody comes off their block fast enough to equate to a pressure. on a lighter note. in contrary to last year at least we are forcing sacks here and their. sometimes at what cost? i dont know. point blank TE's kill us. everytime u see someone consistently catching balls on us, its a TE. which falls on the LBers or Safeties. our front 7 is built to run stop, harris also went down and whoever 53 is sucks, cody spencer or whatever. lets all hope our players are healthy? i think too many of us were worried about losing to the chiefs even after winning, to remember we had an injured player every other drive on both sides. it was ridiculous. mangini will have a fun time this week. player/status/injury rhodes/ probable/ stuff harris/ questionable/ things favre/ doubtful/ TD to INT ratio
Excellent observation...:up: Too add some other thoughts. The Chiefs game plan was exactly the game plan that the Patriots used. Take your QB, give him 2 reads within ten 10 yards of the LOS and that is it.... All of Thigpens' completions, like Cassell's, were within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.....not including the YAC. The toughtest throw he made all day was the TD to Gonzalez and that was into double coverage and required a great athletic catch. So to the point, why the hell don't our DB's play pure bump and run. Get up on the WR, play physical and make the young QB make the proper read or perfect throw to beat you....and dman it! Make the WR's pay for the short pass. We made the correction against the Patriots, Welker was not allowed to run free off the LOS and he was limited on the second half. Simms said it going into the Pats game. Disguise your coverage, play pohysical and make the QB think...We did not makle Thigpen think.
Bump the route? What is that? Communication? Is it allowed? ------------------------------------------ It wouldn't be that sad if the Jets front 3 could "block" the vision of the QB - then he won't find the open receiver in that direction. That's not happening either.
When 50% of your linebackers are converted lineman...this is what you get..its pretty easy to see all year. Linebackers making plays in the middle field on passing plays are nonexistant. To top it all off...we even drafted a lineman that is now being converted to a linebacker..and that is truly the reason you never see him on the field...case closed.
I think it's seed. The Jets have very little in the secondary and the Linebackers lose alot with Barton being the off ILB. Our team does a good job with keeping everything underneath, but they are getting killed with short and intermediate routes. I think this will only be fixed by adding a ILB and a Safety who are actually good at coverage or blitzing more with 6 and even 7 at times.
http://throwingpaperairplanes.wordp...res-an-overall-concept-problem-with-the-team/ I am going to be updating this sometime soon for weeks 4-8. It isn't because there's no pressure. It's because our team lacks basic coverage abilities, at all LB positions, at both S positions, and at 2 of 3 CB positions.
Because Ellis took the Money and Ran and our Pass Rush from the other De spot is no existant. Think Mangenius would try to let Gholston Rotate in at end to pass rush on 3rd downs since he is supposed to be a sack specialist?
He's had trouble getting around OT's and TE's while lined up as an OLB, and that was standing up. How would placing him on the line, undersized for a 3-4 DT, getting him in a stance, and then ask him to use his "bull-rush" or "finesse" moves serve to improve his situation? If anything, it would probably set him back even further.
We don't blitz well. We don't hit the holes correctly and we look "slow" when blitzing. Yes on occasion someone will do it right, but we're certainly no were close to the Eagles or the Steelers when it comes to doing this.
Where great against the run and get a good amount of pressure on the QB but against the pass where bad.
3-Man rushed on every freaking 3rd down, we dont even attempt to get after the qb. Hardly ever blitz. and the sad thing is we have guys now that can rush the passer.
