You can't make too much of the being outplayed excuse, but it did seem that the Charger game and yesterday that the opponent was just more psyched up than the Jets were. Both road games, both with a team on the ropes with every incentive to take the psych level up. Who do you blame for the Jets' relative lack of intensity? I dunno, normally one would have to question the coaches in looking at a dynamic like that.
Are you seriously going to suggest that 3 points in the first half and zero in the third period was based soley on badly executed game plans that were designed to exploit the Raiders weaknesses?
I agree with winstons posts above. leaving favre unprotected calls into question the decion making process of this staff. Unfortunately for them they will face a rough road ahead because once our backups need to start playing as the injuries come(which seems to be now) we will struggle emmensly. We have one decent ol backup-turner, after him noda. Rhodes trying to blitz from 15 yds out is baffling as well. Once again smith seemed to be at the scene of every completed pass a step to late and out of position. Plz address safety next yr for the love of god. I think we are an 8-8 team with these coaches despite the schedule after witnessing this loss. My god are you telling me we couldnt scheme one effective downfield pass with the players we have and favre? We have plays that work and players who should excell weekly but we have no continuity with the play calling and our game plans minus the zona game have been poor at best. This falls on the coaches. How bout showing some emotion, I was watching gruden and just loving the dynamic between him and his players. Dont tell me they dont feed off it either. I see the jets as buying into this emotionless lunchpail attitude and think we need more presence from our coach. its early in the season but we have wasted an opportunity against a poor team. i dont want to hear manginis filibustering bs anymore and dont need to hear about his kids either. I want him to win or pack his goddamn bags! I get paid far less for a job thats impacts lives and you can bet your ass im held accountable.
DWare, do you want to make a case - based on what you've seen so far - for the Jets winning 7 of the next 10 or not?
No, I just think it's just noise to analyze it like people do...any gameplan can be attacked if it doesn't work...and Jets fans offer the fun caveat that they'll give shit to the gameplan win or lose this season.
Well I just figured I'd ask, since you're so opposed to hindsight. I thought maybe you'd make a prediction. You seem to be more optimistic and I'm trying to figure out why.
When game plans consistently don't work and half time adjustments consistently favor the opposition at some point that blame has to fall to the staff.
I don't care if we ran for 500 yards--putting points on the board is a big part of the game. When you can only put 13 points on the board, with BF at QB and our receivers, runners, and OL, its because of a poor game plan. We still could have won this game with a break but even if we did, the CS still sucks. We came out with a no-huddle and discombulated them and then didn't do it again. We ran on 1st and goal in a tight formation inside the 10 again on 1st and 2nd down. If we passed the entire game, we would have put up more than 13 points--who can argue with that? Probably 21. Thats merely the baseline amount of points we would have gotten. Then, you mix things up to get more than that. What good is 200 yards rushing if it results in a lower offensive output--what assholes--they are the dumbest bunch of jerks--easily outcoached and outthought. And they're not learning--that the worst part.
Wow, times have changed. What happened to the old winstonbiggs? You used to be one of the most level-headed posters here. The Jets started out in the spread offense because the team's success this year has been through the air and not on the ground. The running game before yesterday had not been impressive. It's clear the Raiders set up to stop the pass, which is probably the only reason the Jets were able to run. So they started out in a spread formation from which they've been successful and fairly quickly abandoned it when it wasn't working and got the running game going. I don't know why you feel this was such bad coaching.
Watching the game we looked like we were either going to run out of the pro set or pass out of the spread and pretty much that's what we did. Kind of telegraphed our O to the D don't you think. On O we simply look like a team that doesn't know what they want to do and switch series between all running or all passing either with a running set or a spread set. Our O lacks conviction and Favre at 39 is getting the crap kicked out of him running a spread formation. That lack of conviction is being read by the D. The running game chewed up some huge chunks between the 20's but it didn't really work and neither did the short passing game. The lack of conviction was evident and has been evident in every game with the exception of the AZ game when Favre actually went down field with the ball.
They blamed the players last year, so this year they brought in pro bowlers and hall of famers. Apparently it's still the players fault though, as soon as these coaches got them they lost all their talent. Our coaches are quite unlucky don't you think? Also how about Chad? He somehow gained talent when he left and can throw for 300 yards against the Ravens, while our HoF QB can't crack 200 in 4 of 6 games.
Check my posts, I was Chad's biggest critic. That's the thing about you coach excusers, you just make things up and don't worry about facts.
Um...it's football and we're a talented team. That was easy. What's your case that we won't make the playoffs? Cause we're 3-3 and one of those losses was to the Raiders?
We got 23 first downs to their 19. We converted more 3rd downs than they did. We scored the same amount of TDs in the red zone, but made one less trip there. We gained more yards per play and ran more plays. Our total net yardage for the day was 418 to their 344. We ran for over 7 yards a carry. I'm really failing to see the problem with the offensive playcalling. Wheres our QB's blame for 2 INTs, one within the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter while we were still behind? What about the 4 fumbles...even if we "only" lost one? Playcalling looks good or bad due to execution. We didn't execute. Plain and simple. The attempts to find a scapegoat is just...tedious.
Because two of our three wins weren't really convincing. And in our 3 losses we looked horrible on one side of the ball. Now take that and match it up against good teams/coaches: Buffalo, Tennessee, New England, Denver; and wildcard (by "wildcard," I don't mean Playoff Wildcard, but more like unpredictable) teams: St. Louis and Miami. Right now it doesn't look like we'll beat those teams, especially when we lost to a team we should have beaten. As far as I'm concerned, after losing to the Raiders, there are no more check-mark W's which puts the Playoffs in doubt.
Fuck these stats, we scored 13 points, 13. The play calling was predictable as hell and 8 year old kids that can play madden were probably wondering where the PA pass was. Where were the deep routes? The play calling wasn't good.
Smith did more to win that most of the offense. He got us in the position to kick the field goal that took us to OT. I think you are way off base on this one
Sorry but you are dead wrong. We were not able to get open, we got no separation at all, and the OL was not able to give Brett the time needed. You can not throw deep when there is no one open to throw to. You know that. We were man-handled, pure and simple. Stop blaming coaching for everything. Baker falling down did not help much either, or Kotchery stopping his long route 20 yards short of the CB for that matter.
