They say that games are won in the trenches...that makes sense to Jet fans now. The acquisition of Kris Jenkins has made our run defense one of the best in the league, and the signings of Alan Faneca and Damien Woody have boosted our pass protection, but the running game still lacks what we thought we'd have. I don't blame Thomas Jones, I blame Brandon Moore for being a poor run-blocking guard. It makes sense to go guard in round 1. Here are a few offensive linemen I have my eye on: GUARDS: LSU's Herman Johnson - He's a 6'7 386 senior...that's right 386...with quick feet and great hands...think Bryant "Mount" McKinnie, but at guard. Oklahoma Sooner Duke Robinson is also worthy of being taken in the first round. TACKLES: Ole Miss' tackle Michael Oher (6'5 318) is on everyone's All-American list. He'll most likely be a top 10 pick...the same goes for Alabama's tackle Andre Smith (6'4 340). Some sleepers: Andy Levitre and Jeremy Perry guard tandem from Oregon State Ray Feinga, Dallas Reynolds, and Travis Bright from the very talented BYU Wisconsin Badger's giant senior guards Kraig Urbik and Andy Kemp Ole Miss' over-shadowed, versatile offensive lineman Maurice Miller
guards should almost never be chosen in round 1 i dont think we need an OT high this year let woody play his contract out for 3 more years and draft an OT a year before that.We need guys who can make plays period.We need a RB,WR,S, MLB and DE before we draft any other position this year.
...says who? If we have a pick in the 18-28 range, it would be smart to take a big time guard like Herman Johnson or Duke Robinson. Davin Joseph, a first round guard, is a dominant guard on the Bucs. Logan Mankins, another first round guard, has been a pro-bowl caliber player since his rookie season.
Sure you can find Pro Bowl guards in the 1st round, but to be honest, I agree with the previous poster. I feel that it is a position that doesn't require the intelligence of a center and the athleticism of a tackle. These are your stereotypical grunts. I don't by any means mean that as a bad thing, but they can be found later in the draft. Honestly, I feel the same way about RBs. It's just easier to spot that "special" talent at a skill position which is why RBs are chosen early. But guard has got to be the easiest position on the line to fill. That's the only reason I would suggest passing on one in the 1st.
I don't know I want to see some more chemistry on the offensive line first but I would love to have Herman Johnson cause he is a Tiger but sometimes he doesnt play to his size, however he is like the perfect player to match up against a nose tackle because he probably out weighs some of them
Herman Johnson isn't worth a first rounder, I could see Robinson going in the late first, the guy is a monster. also, I like Eugene Monroe better
I don't know, Herman Johnson is on a lot of Pre-Season All-American lists and he could shoot up the boards because of the quickness he has at his size. If he finishes the season strong, and has a solid combine, he should be a late first rounder. I like Eugene Monroe a lot too.
Why does the blame for everything always fall on Brandon Moore? I swear someone needs to show some evidence of him being the reason that the running game sucks. Every time I watch Moore he is blowing someone off the ball. And I don't care about the Seth Joyner article. That's such a small sample size. Is it possible that: a) We have two new offensive lineman and they are still developing chemistry? Look at the Giants offensive line, those guys have been together for a while now. They are probably the best run blocking line in the league. You can't just throw players together and expect they will be a great line. b) Is it possible that since teams know we aren't going to run behind Brick that they tend to shift their front 7 over the middle and right side on obvious rushing downs? c) Is it possible that Thomas Jones is still an average running back? He's never been a great back in his career. He's a hard runner between the tackles but he rarely makes people miss. d) Doesn't it still seem like we are running from obvious run formations? We need to change it up, run from 3 wide receiver sets, more draws and screens.
...wait, wait...MORE draws and screens? Brandon Moore is the weak link on this line. That is the simple answer.
So it's all his fault? Replace Moore and we have a great running game? How was Curtis Martin able to lead the league in rushing yards in 2004 if Brandon Moore started 13 games?
Replace Moore with a better player, and the offensive line will become better. I put some of the blame of Schottenheimer's run offense too. The 2004 Jets' offense was a running machine, and Martin averaged 4.6 per carry. We ran teams into the ground, but also ran Martin into retirement. 1. Martin had 371 carries... 2. Anthony Becht was an awesome blocking tight end 3. Former Jet offensive linemen Kevin Mawae, Jason Fabini, Pete Kendall, Kareem McKenzie were all great run blockers...that's the reason why the line had so much success. It's easy to perform well at guard with that talent around you. 4. Jerald Sowell was a big part of that success too.
Moore is a decent player u cant have a pro bowler at every position it just never works out that way, see the Cowboys. We have much bigger needs than the o-line every body knows that
So Moore had nothing to do with the Jets having a great running game that year? Was it easy for Adrian Clarke to perform well last year with first round picks around him? Was it easy for Anthony Clement? You still have shown no evidence that Moore is the problem. It's just your opinion since he's not a flashy name.
Watch the Favre fumble that was returned for a TD. Brandon Moore looks lost. It was his fault. That's one example. Another, I believe Moore was the ineligable man downfield on the Keller TD. Moore did have a nice block on the first Thomas Jones' rushing score, but he took on a linebacker because Nick Mangold and Damien Woody created a huge gap. ...Clement and Clarke were both cut because they aren't quality linemen. I believe Moore will be next. If you are blaming Adrian Clarke's and Anthony Clement's blocking woes on rookies, then you're the one that has no idea.
I thought the Fumble came from the Left side next to Brick because Baker completely missed his assignment?
