If this doesn't convince Mangenius to open up the playbook, nothing will. It's high time to unleash Favre and take the shackles off our predictable Herm Edwards vanilla offense. The '85 Giants we are not. We can't play smash-mouth ball control football. We need to be what we are, behind our gunslinger. With the game on the line, I trust Favre much more than I trust our coaching staff (with the exception of Westhoff).
So I'm seeing that Mangini is the new blame guy on the board. When I first got here everything in the universe was Herm Edwards' fault, when he left everything became Chad's fault, now I'm noticing it's Mangini's turn. Fun. :up:
Pretty crazy to see us get smacked around again by the bradyless patriots and then pennington and the shitphins absolutely kill the pats.
Brown ran for as many TDs today as Jet RBs did all last season, that will make any QB look a lot better or worse. If we could have run one in from the three last week we might have won.
this thread is totally credible...mainly cuz I was thinking the same exact thing. I still think mandible claw is too stubborn to change his ways, so I predict another lackluster offensive performance...
Is it just me, but I seem to remember the Dolphins having the Patriots' number the past couple of seasons. They always seemed to play them tough and come away with wins when you didn't think they should against the Patriots. Sometimes certain teams just have another team's number.
Don't you see... it soooo much worse than that... because that rookie HC even took a one-armed duck-wing QB who was finished and couldn't throw the ball 5 yards and used him to beat the same team that our hall of fame, guns-blazin' armed QB couldn't beat. The end is near!!!!! The sky is falling!!! And the Chinese are coming!!!!
Clemens too, for a couple months there. To be perfectly honest, back then, everything wrong in the universe was Herm's fault.
BB didn’t overlook anything – BB is just showing what kind of coach he is W/O the GOAT Tom Brady under center. System my ass – he was hideous before TB and will be hideous after TB. He got too much credit for outcoaching an imbecile last week – Eric ManShitForBrains.
I don't think that this thread is over-the-top in the least. As a Jets fan, it's just very frustrating to sit back and watch the same 'ole conservative play calling that doesn't get us very much, including a near-loss to the Fish and a loss to the Pats. Consider that we could very well be 0-2 as of right now. Does some of it fall on the players and their execution? Absolutely. However, the coaches do deserve a great amount of the blame. If you as a coach can see that your playcalling isn't working in a given game, you have to adapt and grow some balls, getting more aggressive, sort of like Mangumchewer did in his first year with the team. It's frustrating to sit back and watch highlights from a given week, seeing what other teams are doing to give them that much-needed win. Then you look at the Jets highlights, some runs, short passes, a bomb or two, non-use of TE's, runs when there should have been at least one attempt at a pass, etc... and you can't help but feel as if our staff missed the bus. Other teams in our own division have shown that you're not going to distinguish yourselves unless your mundane play calling becomes something more. Also, conservative play calling is not going to get you as deep into the playoffs we would like to see. The talent is there and the failure is on execution. To say that we as Jets fans are overreacting (the sky is falling) is complete bullshit. Every game counts in this league and 2 games that should have been wins resulted in a near win and a loss to a backup QB who hadn't started since HS. Our O failed to exploit a PATS D that Miami proved can in fact be exploited to a great degree. Going into tonight facing a hungry San Diego team, at home, on MNF is an ominous task indeed and the possibilities of us being 1-2 by tomorrow morning are greater than this team being 2-1. Let's hope that our coaches will finally call an agressive game and that in 12 hours they will surprise us all. Who would have thought that by Week 3 our best coach on the team would be Don Sutton?
PERFECT!!!! I hope I am wrong, but unless we are up by a lot of points with 2 minutes left, we will be 1-2.
I understand where you are coming from, and am tempted to join in on the pessimism. Not because I like to be pessimistic, but because I don't like to be surprised after being optimistic. But, while the reality is the Jets are not favored tonight, and are not for a reason, if they win next week the finish the first quarter of the season 2-2, which is not awful, but they can afford to do that and still make the playoffs. I say that because the reality also is that Favre came late to the Jets during this off season, and the O is a work in progress. Coles used to be our best offensive player, and he currently is hurting and not contributing. The OL is still getting used to each other, and I put most of that failure to punch it in on them. In short there are reasons to expect the O will improve as the season goes on, and the D is playing better than last year. I have my doubts about the CS, too, but I'm not quite ready to jump on the pessimist bandwagon.
If Revis doesn't box out Ginn on that last play in Miami we're 0-2, thanks to bad, conservative play-calling, not because we don't have the players.
I don't know what you're talking about. I still hate Nugent and think we're 1-1 instead of being 2-0 because of him. Think about how everything would've changed if we had a kicker. Miami game wouldn't have been close. We could've taken the momentum from the get-go in the Patriots game with that 1st quarter FG. So, I think our game planning sucks, but I'm not about to jump ship on Mangini. One thing I found out being a member here is, you gotta stay consistent on these message boards. Therefore, I hate Nuge'. :up:
the dolphins run college formations and beat the Pats. wow. Ronnie Brown fake to Williams worked like 3 times. Are you kidding me?
