Mangini has "his" quaterback...unlike Norv Turner, Mangini has a healthy roster with a full complement of players...and Mangini used his mulligan last week when he couldn't be the Matt Cassell-led Cheatriots at home. If the Jets lose Monday night, it's time to start the clocking ticking on this guy. If the Jets lose Monday night, there was no reason to bring Favre in here, except to sell PSLs to us dummies. Hell, Pennington would've taken the Jets to at least 1-2, and so could've Clemens. There are no excuses. Either Mangini has the goods or he doesn't. It's put-up time. He needs to deliver in all phases Monday night: 1) Motivating his team--I don't want to see any evidence that the Chargers are madder or more desperate than the Jets; 2) Devising a fearless and brilliant gameplan that utilizes all the Jets assets--If the Mangenius of 2006 doesn't return by Monday evening, than he never existed at all; 3) Instilling discipline in the knuckleheads--Penalties are the dividing between a good coach and a bad one. 4) Halftime adjustments--Again, if he's really son of Belichick, the team plays better in the 2nd half; 5) Going for the kill shot--There's going to come a moment, maybe more than once, when Mangini needs to have the balls to make a call TO WIN THE GAME. God help him if he turtles on us again. One more thing...last week's loss already puts us in the wildcard category (for now). Denver looks very much like the division winner in the West, which means San Diego is competing with us for a wildcard. Sure, it's week 3, sure it's early, but make no mistake--the tie-breaker for a possible wildcard between NYJ and SD will be decided on Monday night. Time for Mangini deliver a win. Time for Favre to show us why he's here and Pennington isn't. Time for Mike Tannenbaum's "stars" to shine in primetime, not just in the make-believe world of newyorkjets.com. NOTHING LESS THAN A WIN IS ACCEPTABLE.
Eh, I thought we'd be 1-2 at week 3, so I guess I won't be all doom and gloom if we lose. I don't think Monday's game will make or break us. Old noodle arm is going to lose his place to Henne in another week or two. Pennington wouldn't have made either of those two TD passes against the Dolphins. Pennington also threw the game losing interception.
A little too much, ya think? So I guess if someone in a green jersey puts the ball ont he turf, throws it to a wide open DB(not a typo) or shows off his mad roughing the passer skills than that's Mangini too?
I'm sorry but this is stupid. The Chargers are one of the most talented teams in the league and could easily be 2-0 right now. Our offense is still getting in sync with the new QB. What does Mangini have to do with Woody getting called for holding? Weren't the Herm teams known for being disciplined in terms of penalties? Most of us expected to lose this game prior to the season, but now if we lose it Mangini should be fired? WTF?
I agree with George here. It's time Mangini stepped up. If we can't compete with a banged up Charger team what is the point? On paper we have a strong team and most areas of our squad are performing to a pretty high standard. Our game plan was the only reason we lost last week and that has to stop with the coach If we lose Monday night Mangini is living on borrowed time.
I think U R expecting way to much of the Mangini/Shotty combo. They need seasoning just like people claim Gholston needs. Shucks BF has more FB knowledge in one of his pinkies then Mangini & Shotty combined have in there brains together
I think losing this game is totally acceptable. I certainly hope we do not. Should the Jets o/c air the ball out more? Yes I think so. Remember our new punter is already injured also. You cant start the clock ticking on the coaching staff on this game.
I agree with this post. Excuses...a loss is not an excuse it's a loss...God forbid it happen and we fall into the bottomless pit we know as "1-2." Mangini didn't need excuses last week. Fans who watched the game without their hand on their blame guns trigger realize last week was winnable but the team played itself out. Will it happen again this week? Hopefully not. Does that mean we dump our HC off because some over reactive fans see every loss as the sky getting a little bit lower?
what the hell does Penny's performance with the Dolphins have to do with the fact that we arguably haven't shown to be any better without him? great, the Jets beat the Dolphins, and then lost to a Tom Brady-less Patriots team. I don't think you can rationally argue that Penningtn couldn't have done the same thing.
it has nothing to do with evaluating this loss in isolation. it is when you judge it in conjunction with the loss last week, it would begin to reveal a pattern. besides, who gives a shit what we expected about the game before the season...you probably thought we'd be playing a 2-0 team, so clearly that had to be part of how you evaluated the possibility of a win or loss. fact is, we are playing an 0-2 team whose defense is pathetic in both facets of the game. if the Jets can't move the ball and score against this team that is clearly not playing like the team you expected it to be prior to the season and thus expected a loss, than that expectation becomes irrelevant. that's a pretty important factor you seem to want to ignore -- how the Chargers are actually playing as opposed to how you feared they would play prior to the season. I didn't expect a loss. this is a Norv Tunrer team, every game against them is winnable, and I damn well expect the Jets to have the ability to control this game.
I don't think the OP said fire him Tuesday morning, but the seat better get hot on him if we lose to an 0-2 team. this is a very winnable game. last week was a winnable game. if he can't win these games, he might not be the man for the job.
I disagree that a loss would be unacceptable as a blanket statement. However, a lot of the points of the OP are valid. If this team isnt motivated that is unacceptable. If Mangini coaches not to lose, unacceptable. And certainly if there are no halftime adjustments, unacceptable.
I like your post; among other things, the above aspect is insightful--don't know that it can be used as a motivator but it magnifies the importance of this game. If you go into a situation with this attitude, good things happen.
I'm fully expecting a loss. We're catching SD at the wrong time...they are a very ANGRY team...and will play like one.
I dont disagree with you that San Diego is an angry squad this week. But seriously does everybody think we have been sitting on our asses eating bon-bons and just have decided "as long as we had fun, we won" ? i mean seriously. If i was a jet, I would come out fired up, these guys think they are going to come into this game and try and kick my ass? I would be like, screw that, these guys are 0-2, and they are favored? We have brett Favre who is likely to have a big game, it's Monday night football, and I want to go out and put a beatdown on these injured 0-2 Chargers! now that being said, it should be a dog fight, but come on, why does everybody just assume the jets are going to be a complacent football team tomorrow night? I would go out there fired up and ready to kick some ass.
But why shouldn't the Jets be angry as well? Sure the Chargers got screwed by the refs, but the Jets lost a very winnable game last week and barely sqeeked by a so-called week Miami team in week one. The Jets players and coaches should be mad too.
So, you have somehow concluded the Jets are a better team than the one that lost in the AFC Championship?
