Why don't the Jets go to 4 or 5 WR sets?

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  1. StreetFighterJet

    StreetFighterJet New Member

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    Isn't that when Favre was most successful last year in GB?

    We have the WRs:

    1. Coles
    2. Cotch
    3. Stuckey
    4. Keller
    5. Wright

    You can run 4 WRs (Coles, Cotch, Stuckey, Keller) w/ T. Jones or L. Washington in the backfield... you spread out the D and have more room to run. In the GB games I saw last year Favre really tore teams apart with these spread out formations.

    We need to abandon our old way of doing things. We need to cater our offense to Favre not force Favre to cater his playing style to us! I seriously think that the approach we seem to be taking right now is the wrong one.
     
  2. RevisOfNazareth

    RevisOfNazareth New Member

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    How bout...Favre learn the playbook so he can begin calling his own plays?
     
  3. StreetFighterJet

    StreetFighterJet New Member

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    Well I don't know what sections of the playbook we are trying to run, but we should be running plays that cater to his strengths, not force a 38 year old QB to adapt to what we used to do with CP.
     
  4. MayoGate

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    You know .. I was waiting for the Jets to come out in the five wide set all game long .. I do it in madden all day with the Jets.. Favre is a beast in those sets .. Maybe next time ..
     
  5. kevmvp

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    Because the Jets are trying to turn Favre into Chad Pennington lol. But I guess some of that could be due to the fact that Favre does not know the whole playbook yet.
     
  6. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Because the Jets have the opposite of balls.
     
  7. Br4d

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    You can't go 4 and 5 WR's in the NFL any more except as the occasional catch the defense napping with a fast personnel shift type move. The pash rush is just too versatile and quick at this point, and you need to have at least one person and more often two back there blocking for the QB when he drops back.

    What is possible, although rarely used, is 2 TE's and 3 WR's. Put Keller or Franks on the line of scrimmage and have Baker opposite but a step back and then add a slot receiver next to him along with Coles and Cotchery and you'd make defenses have to think really hard about what they were going to do on the snap. Have Favre in the shotgun to give him the best view of both defensive ends and the blitzers potentially flooding in with them.

    That might work. Not quite Run and Shoot, but as close as is feasible in today's NFL.
     
  8. DCanadian

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    Because they aren't the 2007 Patriots and this isn't Madden.

    With that said, I would like to see plays that suit Favre and no more of this Pennington dink and dunk bullshit.
     
  9. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    I'd rather see them mix up 3 TEs and a basic package than spreading it out.
     
  10. StreetFighterJet

    StreetFighterJet New Member

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    There is no "you can and you can't". You can do anything you want if you execute it correctly.

    GB lived off of the 4 and 5 WR sets last year and so did the Pats. I remember the Pats vs the Vikes... the Vikes having the best run D in the NFL... what do the pats do? Come out in 4 and 5 WR sets and tore them APART!

    Favre needs to have fun, he loves the 4 and 5 WR sets, where he can just sling it to the open guy... the pass rush is not an issue if you can get the ball out in a 3 step drop. You can't rush the passer effectively and defend 4 or 5 WRs at the same time.

    Use 4 WR sets, have L. Washington as a dump off option who can always make the first LBer look like a douche bag with a simple juke. I'm so tired of our conservative approaches on offense for the last 5 or 6 years now.. even longer. Lets open this sh1t up. What do we have to lose?!
     
  11. Revis Flytrap

    Revis Flytrap New Member

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    ^Well, I for one agree with you. At least, we should have some plays off it and see if they work or not. I cannot recall seeing even 1 instance of a 5WR set.
    What is the matter with this f**kin' coach? Maybe BB secretly brain washed him while in NE.
     
  12. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Duh...our coaches are stupid and don't see the light that we all do here...

    I mean we've watched game after game of this team they splurged all this money on...and they do the same shit week after week.
     
  13. Dierking

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    Because first the coach needs to find two balls.
     
  14. Revis Flytrap

    Revis Flytrap New Member

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    ^That's a good point--do we know if he has two balls? Maybe he had a ballectomy as a kid--I've heard of it. Or maybe one never dropped.
    I call on all journalists to seek the answer to this question. And while we are at it, I would like a testosterone level check too.
     
  15. jfhjr71

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    Saying you cant run a spread in the NFL is wrong if as you stated you have some balls and show that on a 2nd and short you would have a complete mismatch on defense and they would probably have to burn a timeout to adjust..We may never get to actually run a paly in that set but we could sure at least show it
     
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    two of the best teams last year lived off the 4 and 5 WR sets (pats and packers). how can anyone say it doesn't work in this age of the NFL when it was quite possibly the most potent offense of last year.
     
  17. Br4d

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    This is just not true. The Pats went 4 WR on occasion, but the only game they used the 4 WR set a lot was against Philly and that's because they were using the hurry-up to try to get mismatches for Moss in the secondary after he got shut down by Lito Sheppard early on.

    The Packers also went 4 WR periodically, but they didn't live that way at all.

    The Patriots had 4 WR with 36+ catches because they regularly went with 3 WR and they rotated Gaffney and Stallworth opposite Moss with Welker in the slot.

    They've gone with 4 WR for ONE play this year and didn't do it against the Jets at all.
     
  18. smsguy

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    Because the coaching staff somehow thinks it's a brilliant idea to trade for a guy that's due 12 mil to come in and hand the ball off 50% of the time!
     
  19. uberchink

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    Well I watched the Packers every game last season and know for a fact they used the 4 and 5 (what they called the "Big 5" or "Fab 5" set) very often.
     
  20. StreetFighterJet

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    And Favre looked VERY comfortable doing it. HE had most of his success last year from those sets.
     

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