Tommy Kelly BUSTED

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  1. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    T.Jones yards per carry 2007: 3.6
    T.Jones yards per carry 2008: 4.4
     
  2. Raiderjoe

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    How many times do I have to say it before anyone gets it. Jamarcus Russell in a great position. Hes basically a rookie QB that isn't be asked to carry the offense. He has the running game to lean on. Nothing speeds up a young QB development faster than having that running game to lean on. Couple other facts, why would you even want to throw the football, when you can rush for over three hundred yards on the ground. Two Jamarcus Russell hasn't even had his top reciever play yet(javon Walker). Raiders Wrs have had trouble catching russell fastball. Javon Walker is used to catching fastball that might not be in Russell catergory, but aren't thatfar off- Cutler and favre. Third Raiders starting Lt Kwame Harris was out this sunday. Mario Henderson his replacement did play well , but they did alot of things to protect him. Raiders weren't going to hold the football that long. fourth. Russell is doing everything Raiders coaches want him to. Protect the footbal. They rather see him throw it away, than throw it in double coverage. Rely on your Running game+ Play very good defense+ protect the football= put you in position to win alot of games.
     
  3. GreenMachine

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    No he is not a rookie QB. He played last year. And even if he did not , he still is not a rookie.
     
  4. Raiderjoe

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    Yea but its only two games . One of the games was against Miami who run defense is very suspect. (thomas jones had his biggest game against them last year too)
    Just Like Raideres RBs aren't going to average what they are averaging per cary.


    D Mcfadden averaging seven yards per carry. J fargas 5.2 yards per carry M Bush 5.6 yards per carry.

    Raiders Running backs should average a higher yard per carry average this year and it has nothing to do with the oline. Mcfadden going to break some very long runs thats going to push that yard per carry average way up.
     
  5. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    You asked. I answered.
     
  6. Raiderjoe

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    For all purposes (playing experience) he still a rookie. Last year he missed all training camp and preseason because of his holdout. Russell is going to be fine. Right now hes following the blueprint(Very conservative) Like I alluded to Raiders really had no trust in mario Henderson protecting Russell blindside this past week. (k harris out) Raiders put a very short clock in Russell head, of how long they wanted him to hold the football, before they wanted to see him get rid of it. R aiders wr's have to do a better job of getting their hands up to catch his passes. His fastball shouldn't be supprising them anymore, and too many times his fastball is eating them up. Russell going to be fine and this nRaiders passing game should pick up considerably as the season goes on.
     
  7. Raiderjoe

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    Still when it mattered the most, that running game failed you. Mangini tried to make a statement against the Patriots. They tried to run it three straight times near the goal line and failed. Still too early too draw any conclusion for the rest of the year.
     
  8. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Why are you asking then?
     
  9. Raiderjoe

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    Basically because I don't see your running game being any better this year, than last year. Jets defintely will be looking to get a RB early in next year draft. When its all said and done, I think the numbers are going to confirm my opinion.
     
  10. NDmick

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    so if the average goes up from 3.6 to let's say 4.3, its still the same?
     
  11. Raiderjoe

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    No, but I don't see your running game averraging over 4 yards per carry. I think they will be alot closer to last year average, than over 4 yards per carry average. When everyting is all said and done. You don't have an explosive running back. You have a back that can rip off some long runs and obviously your yards per carry average going to go up. Thomas Jones isn't breaking any long runs.
     
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  12. NDmick

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    so the Jets are going to face the Viking run defense for the remaining 14 games?
     
  13. Raiderjoe

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    No your missing the point. I would reread what I added to that post , to have a better understanding of the point Im making.

    Case In Point. Last year Raiders had sixth best rushing offense in football. They moved the ball consitantly on the ground. Jet fans told me they weren't that good. That there average per attempt wasn't that impressive. That average per carry was decieving because raiders were in alot of short yardage situations and they didn't have a running back that was going to break some very long runs. Now with Mcfadden ability to break some very long runs, Raiders yard per carry going to look alot more impressive. That has nothing to do with Oline , but with an explosive RB gaining some hugh chunks.(pushing that average per carry way up)
     
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  14. NDmick

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    I saw TJ go the distance in his career, but it hasn't happened yet in NY. Patience.

    so it went from the Jets running game to a paragraph about the Raiders running game...nice
     
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    Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco wont need that rookie crutch. You know why? Because they are real Quarterbacks, not one that charades as one but really fantasizes about playing Nose Tackle will eating a big mac.
     
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    I hate to say it, but I agree with Raiderjoe in terms of alot of these so called "charities" are corrupt, and ruin it for those that are legit. It is hard in this day and age to know where your money is going.
     
  17. Raiderjoe

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    IF you expecting TJ to take it to the house anytime soon. Your going to be waiting a longtime. Hes isn't that type of running back. Before the draft all we heard is jets lack of playmakers on offense. Now Tj is a playmaker who capable of taking it to the house anytime he touches it. Okay sounds about right. Raider Point was just another example to prove my point.
     
  18. Harpua

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    So why is Trent Edwards looking so Good and Russell looking so bad?

    Same Draft year and as we've been told the Raiders have a great offensive line and running game that should make his job so much easier. Add that to a top five defense and he should easily be out preforming Edwards. So it comes down to you being completely full of shit on your analysis of the Raiders talent or Russell really sucks ass as a QB. One way or the other you lose. Good Job!!! :up:
     
  19. Raiderjoe

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    NO correction Raiders have a very good run blocking Oline and a questionable pass blocking oline. Last game with Raiders starting LT out (Kwame harris), Raiders had no confidence in Mario Henderson protecting Russell blindside. Raiders shorten the clock in Russell head. Three steps and the ball has to be out. The play not there throw it away and don't force it in double coverage. When raiders get there number 1 WR Javon walker back and K harris back, you should start to see the passing game taking off.
     
  20. Attackett

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    Only Raiderjoke can take a thread about another Raiders misfit and turn it into a thread about the Jets running game.
     

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