The 4th Round Draft Myth

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  1. firemanedjr

    firemanedjr Active Member

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    Okay, I've heard a lot about how our 4th round picks have always been our best ones. How giving up a 2nd might even be more advantageous. But is this true? Let's take a look at the last 5 drafts (excluding 2008), and look at the players we've taken in each round.

    2003:
    Round 1: Dewayne Robertson
    Round 2: Victor Hobson
    Round 3: BJ Askew
    Round 4: No Pick
    Round 5: Derrick Pagel, Matt Walters
    Round 6: Brooks Bollinger
    Round 7: Matt Yovanovits

    2004:
    Round 1: Jonathan Vilma
    Round 2: No pick
    Round 3: Derrick Strait
    Round 4: Jerricho Cotchery, Adrian Jones
    Round 5: Eric Coleman
    Round 6: Marko Cavka
    Round 7: Darrell McClover, Trevor Johnson, Derrick Ward, Rashad Washington

    2005:
    Round 1: No pick
    Round 2: Mike Nugent, Justin Miller
    Round 3: Sione Pouha
    Round 4: Kerry Rhodes
    Round 5: Andre Maddox
    Round 6: Cedric Houston
    Round 7: Joel Dreesen, Harry Johnson

    2006:
    Round 1: D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold
    Round 2: Kellen Clemens
    Round 3: Anthony Schlegel, Eric Smith
    Round 4: Brad Smith, Leon Washington
    Round 5: Jason Pociask
    Round 6: Drew Coleman
    Round 7: Titus Adams

    2007:
    Round 1: Darelle Revis
    Round 2: David Harris
    Round 3: No Pick
    Round 4: No Pick
    Round 5: No Pick
    Round 6: Jacob Bender
    Round 7: Chansi Stuckey

    When looked at by round drafted, we get the following results:
    1st round: Robertson, Vilma, Ferguson, Mangold, Revis
    2nd round: Hobson, Nugent, Miller, Clemens, Harris
    3rd round: Askew, Strait, Pouha, Schlegel, E. Smith
    4th round: Cotchery, Jones, Rhodes, B. Smith, L. Washington
    5th round: Pagel, Walters, E. Coleman, Maddox, Pociask
    6th round: Bollinger, Cavka, Houston, D. Coleman, Bender
    7th round: Yovanovits, McClover, T. Johnson, Ward, R. Washington, Dreesen, H. Johnson, Adams, Stuckey

    The Verdict:
    The Jets 4th round draft picks have performed extraordinarily well, not just in the scope of late round pick, but for any NFL player. Jerricho Cotchery is an excellent wide receiver, Leon Washington a great kick returner and change-of-pace back. Kerry Rhodes is one of the best safeties in football. However, on the flip side, the team's second round selections, with the exception of David Harris, have been ver poor. Only one player taken in the 2nd round of the past 5 drafts is a starter. It is difficult to evaluate the 1st round draft choices of the Jets. Vilma was a great fit for the 4-3, but struggled mightily in the 3-4 defense favored by Eric Mangini. So too did Dewayne Robertson. And while D'Brickashaw Ferguson has been a solid LT, Nick Mangold and Darrelle Revis have established themselves as stars at their own positions.

    Overall, I would have to suggest that the idea that the Jets have performed better drafting in the 4th round is, in fact, true. When you look at the groups of players drafted in each round, I believe you would prefer the players we took in the 4th to those selected in any other round.
     
  2. JCotchrocket

    JCotchrocket Active Member

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    I don't think it was ever a myth and pretty much everyone here knows who we've drafted in the fourth round in the last five years or so.

    File under UNNECESSARY.
     
  3. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    My Verdict: You just wasted a whole lot of time trying to prove somthing everyone knows. high picks pan out more often and are usually better players long term. The Jets have had several good 4th rounders and people like to point that out. Its friendly banter, not us trying to reinvent the wheel.

    Yeesh.
     
  4. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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  5. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    I don't think you needed to go thru all that work to find out our 4th round picks have been gems. :wink:
     
  6. KOZ

    KOZ Totally Addicted

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    wow alot of work to state the obvious. Thanks again for confirming that our latest 4th rounders have been gems.

    I propose that for the '09 draft, we only pick in the 4th round. Trade everything else down or up to get there.
     
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    Now there's an idea. Keep trading picks down until we've accumulated 7 or 8 4th round picks and completely shore up the team. At the initial contract level of a 4th round pick, we'd be set for years!
     
  8. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    The Jets should never draft in the 5th round... good god thats bad.
     
  9. Jets n Boys

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    You forgot to mention Lowery....How can you forget about him dude...?
     
  10. fenwyr

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    Or the 3rd. Yuck!
     
  11. PinPointPenning10

    PinPointPenning10 Well-Known Member

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    Wow, the Jets really suck at the 3rd round. 5th round I'll excuse because it's pretty late.
     
  12. Namath2Kolber

    Namath2Kolber New Member

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    They aren't so great in the second round either.
     
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    he said he wasnt including '08 draft
     
  14. firemanedjr

    firemanedjr Active Member

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    Yeah, the jury's got to still be out. I know we all love Dwight Lowery, but he's played all of 1 NFL game. He's not Kerry Rhodes...yet
     
  15. vajetsfan

    vajetsfan New Member

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    Why would you call it a myth and then prove it to be fact?
     
  16. firemanedjr

    firemanedjr Active Member

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    It's like Mythbusters...you start with a myth and either prove it or bust it.

    In this case, the myth was proven
     
  17. Revis Flytrap

    Revis Flytrap New Member

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    I don't want to start a f**kin' problem on this thread but that is an AWESOME FUCKIN ANALYSIS that you did and I THANK YOU FOR DOING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
    What you did was look at the data and confirmed the hypothesis. Often, people have hypotheses and they are full of s**t! I'm not talking about any Jets fan--I mean people everywhere are biased by things other than the facts. ED JR. just gave us the facts and now, we can all say, Fuck yeah--the 4th rd is the shit for the Jets and fuck anyone who says differently!
     
  18. Section 227. Row 5

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    Fuckin' A.
     

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