Where is our improved run defense?

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  1. dabrowsk1

    dabrowsk1 Active Member

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    No this schtick of yours is getting tiring. The starting lineup was in for 2 series. It is the damn preseason, it means shit and tells you less about the regular season. The overreaction on this board is disturbing.

    I will say it again, IT IS PRESEASON! How about some perspective.
     
  2. MayoGate

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    Don .. I'm with you .. I saw a draw on 3rd and forever, no problem.. first down .. I hope it stays like this for week 2 .. POW ..
     
  3. Jtuds

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    Aren't there 32 teams in the league?
     
  4. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Pittsburgh has been notoriously bad at running a 3-4 as well. Bill Parcells has made a disaster out of the scheme every where he has gone. Its also run in San Fran and Cleveland. Bringing the total to about 8 teams, or 25% of the league.

    Yea, I guess its the scheme's fault we could not contain shit on the edges last night.
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  5. Jtuds

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    We had for more success last season when we played in a 4-3. Towards the end of the season, it was a 50/50 split in terms of our defensive scheme. It doesn't mean much when you keep saying something's better, yet the results are always the same: poor. The proof's in the pudding.
     
  6. dabrowsk1

    dabrowsk1 Active Member

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    What does that even mean? What defense do the most successful teams in the league employ? I would say it is spread pretty evenly over the different defensive alignments.

    To say that the 3-4 sucks when playoff/championship defenses like Dallas and NE employ it, is ridiculous.
     
  7. JetsLookingforDWare

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    God this thread sucks.
     
  8. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    If there is anything to be worried about right now, it isn't the run defense, it is the coaching.

    -Gholston playing totally out of position - this is not going got help him develop.
    -A talented defense that plays conservative and doesn't blitz. What gives? Does anyone really think they are hiding something for the regular season?
    -Trying to send the game into overtime in the preseason. Why not give Ratliff an opportunity to pull out a win, see if he can handle it pretending they were down by 4?

    The loss means nothing but the coaching I've seen looks awful.
     
  9. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Great the Pats fan and Don are on the same page. Not all that supprising. :smile:
     
  10. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    I'll concede your third point.

    Gholston is a 3-4 OLB. He's not out of position, but looks stiff during coverage right now and is not getting good containment on runs or pressure on the QB. Still its only preseason. He is far too small to play DE in the 3-4.

    All D's play conservitive in the preseason. Very little blitzing and no interesting packages. This happens across the league. Nothing new here.
     
  11. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    That isn't what I saw out of the San Fran and Seattle games.

    One of the great NFL coaches, Vince Lombardi, taught that execution would lead to victory. If the Jets were to work on the things in the preseason games (and camp though I don't go so I honestly don't know) that they're going to do in the regular season, it doesn't matter whether or not other teams know its coming, because they won't be able to stop it.
     
  12. Run_N_gun10

    Run_N_gun10 Well-Known Member

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    Fire Bob Sutton......Bob Sutton doesn't tackle. Jets signed Jenkins, but there

    DE's are 2 small & 2 weak. Its called a front 3, not a front 1 (Jenkins). Jets

    didn't draft or sign any DE's for there 3-4 defense, so you're basically gonna

    see the same play as last year with there undersized DE's. Jets' need to get

    bigger upfront & I believe that gonna take Pouha starting next to Jenkins &

    another DE (don't know who) as the 3rd piece upfront. This leaves the

    depth very shallow. Thats why I was so pissed that that the Jets' wasted

    there 5th round pick on Ainge....when that DT from Iowa St. (Rubin) was still

    on the board. Jets' need to get bigger, younger & add better quality depth

    upfront & actually on both lines O & D. Jets' coulda even taken OL or any

    other position over Ainge...that was just a b.s. pick. Jets need more speed at

    OLB & more size at ILB...They really need to find another David Harris. Losing

    Hobson was a mistake. He woulda fit in great at ILB.
     
  13. Run_N_gun10

    Run_N_gun10 Well-Known Member

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    Its not necessarily a scheme issue.....Jets LB's need more speed & closing speed on ball carriers. I believe its more a talent issue.
     
  14. Miamipuck

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    Troll :beer:
     
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    Pretty much yeah..............
     
  16. Popeye's Army

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    While the first team only gave up 42 yards, it was in only 2 series. Multiply that out for an entire game and that's a hell of a lot of yards given up. And our 2nd and 3rd teams didn't do any better. So I don't think there's any evidence that the team has gotten any better than last year at rush defense. And that's a problem since we were in the bottom of the league for several defense categories.
     
  17. FlashGordon

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    San Diego is another bad 3-4 team.
     
  18. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    No kidding? Wow your a sharp one! Try telling that to the guy who claimed the scheme sucked.

    :smile:
     

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