Jets History: Best Center

The problem with these "survey's" is most of you NEVER saw the 60s NYJs so they are completely discounted except for JWN & maybe DM. A few more may have seen the 70s NYJs for better or worse so they are also discounted making these polls/surveys quite valueless.

 

Well how can you chose an "all"time player when you never saw him play making your poll/survey totally flawed?

 

You were discussing an old issue of the Daily News today with Jetophile. Did you happen to see her avatar? She didn't see Abraham Lincoln presidentin' to be able to understand he was a great president.

 

What a way to piss on a good time. I get your point, but c'mon, lay off. I never saw some of these players, either. Doesn't mean we can't have fun. A foreign concept to you, Mr. Happy. I went with Schmitt.

 

A great shot, and an old signature. Man, that looks great.

 

Kurt, as a social studies teacher, it is in my professional opinion that you ignore champ. It's a poor historical argument. Just because you didn't personal witness something, doesn't mean you can't knowledgeable about that something. If that were true, we wouldn't be able to study history at all!

 

I don't think the purpose of these poll is to "prove" anything, merely to generate discussion.

I understand that it must be frustrating to see great players go under-appreciated because most of the posters are too young to remember them, but that doesn't make the threads related to these polls "valueless". If anything, these are opportunities for the older guys to educate the younger ones. I know I always find it interesting when guys talk about players who were before my time.

 

Rather than the view of these polls being valueless because of some memebers not having seen all the players in action I would be really interested in hearing the views of people who have seen players discuss what they think of the merits of players.

As for me I haven't seen any Jets pre the 80's other tha highlight clips (and there ain't too many of those) because I live in the UK and it's only been in recent years that they've been more than written box scores etc so c'mon those in the know give me some knowledde

 

Yeah, that's the ticket. championjets69 would do better to educate some of the younger posters instead of bitchin' about everything.

 

Well, I did see all of them, so let the educatin' begin. My first thought was to go with Mawae, since he really was at the top of the profession for quite a few years. I certainly think that he was better than Fields. Schmitt is a little tougher, because back then offensive linemen couldn't get away with the kind of holding that they could from the 1980s on, and defensive linemen were allowed to bash offensive linemen across the head at will. He was an excellent center, but unquestionably not the best in the league (that was Jim Otto, who might be the best ever). He was responsible for one of the great quotes from the SB season ("My name is John Schmitt. I have the one position that every girl in the country wishes they had. I bend over in front of Joe Namath every Sunday, and Joe puts his hands between my legs.").

Ultimately I'll go with Mawae.

 

It's Mawae, but how is Jim Sweeney not in the poll but Roger Duffy is?

 

That entire post was so full of awesomeness, I almost forgot my own name.

 

StatJeff, that was classic! I never heard that Schmitt quote before! Eff-ing brilliant.

Thanks dude...my tuition check is in the mail.

 

H'mm if what you posted is even near the truth then you are a very rare exception to the many on this board

 

H'mm I missed that quote. Where/when was it said as it is a beauty it should be immortalized somewhere.

 

I had heard a variation of it through the years, but the direct quote is on page 37 of Art Shamsky's book The Magnificent Seasons.

 

OK thanks I will troop to the library to see if I can find it