it wasn't his fault initially of course now it is. you could always make the argument it's willie's fault too for leaving him in so long. not to mention that this game could've been over long ago, the mets had the bases loaded 3 seperate times with 1 out, 0 outs and 1 out and they only got 3 runs out of it.
In the circumstances you mention the expected number of runs is about 5, so getting 3 is certainly below average. Still, while that call on the Pierre play hurt, this game is to me is more about bad pitching by Maine and Heilman than anything else.
I unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) missed the game, so I could be way off here, but it appears to me that Heilman was given the ball in a key, go-to-guy spot. That seems to be the worst part of this, worse than his actual performence. We have a bunch of guys in the pen who are performing...Heilman isn't. Did Willie make a huge mistake, or am I wrong?
Heilman had been dominant the last 2 times out and the Mets have been relying alot on the pen lately. I didn't have a problem with bringing him in in that spot but I do think Willie should've been quicker with the hook.
Fair enough...It appears though that Heilman really hasn't been the same since Yadier. I'm just going to throw this out there: Would it be at all useful to see how he does as a starter? He had success briefly in that role before, and he could certainly use a drastic change. Heck, maybe he and Pelfrey should switch places. Or maybe I'm crazy, it's one or the other.
heilman in may 5 outings, 8ip, 0r, 2h, 1/10 bb/k 5 outings, 4ip, 11r, 13h, 3/2 bb/k this is the same pitcher. it's almost worse then if a guy just flat out sucked because you think he's "turning the corner" then you have a disaster like tonight. i don't see any reason to believe he would be successful as a starter. maybe as a last ditch effort to hope he can magically have a good start or two and then trying to deal him, i don't know.
Actually, he had very little success as a starter. In 25 career starts he is 5-13, with a 5.93 ERA and a 1.59 WHIP. As a reliever he is 14-13, with a 3.25 ERA and a 1.17 WHIP. He isn't a great reliever, but he was a terrible starter.
Interesting stat, minus our setup men our bullpen's ERA is below 3. That is one of the main reasons why we are stuck in mediocre city
Glavine is gone, now the Mets just have to work on finding a way to get Heilman and Pelfrey off the team. http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=379656&postcount=342 http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=606829&postcount=142 http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=606843&postcount=144
This is a little misleading as the Mets employ three specialists out of the pen. Feliciano's ERA is good but he can't get out righties this year and his WHIP is a ghastly 1.60. Smith has been murder on righties but can't get lefties out. Show has been the best non-Wagner reliever but his ridiculously low strikeout rate suggests he's been extremely lucky with batted balls finding gloves. The problem with this of course, especially when a long game for one of your starters is making it through 6 innings is that you burn through these guys pretty quickly and need to bring in the Sosas, the Wises and the Heilman's of the world. I'd like to see Muniz get a chance to show what he can do while he's up here.
That surprises me. I had convinced myself he was a solid starter. This morning though I noticed a guy at Metsblog had the same idea, switching Pelfrey and Heilman. I do like the idea of throwing Heilman out there and then immidiately trading him.
