Tom Brady scouting report before the NFL Draft: "Poor build, very skinny and narrow, lacks mobility and the ability to avoid the rush, lacks a really strong arm." I've heard a lot of the same complaints about Ainge. Its not fair to Ainge nor Brady to compare the two but with time Ainge can become a good NFL QB using Brady as the precedent. There's no way he will start this year but by his 3rd year he could be a decent option if he improves his build and works on becoming a professional QB. On a side note....during the final regular season game last year between the Giants and Patsies they showed a video of Brady during his combine. Wow what a fucking dork he was back then. Tall, gangly looking cracker with long arms who looked more like a pedophile than a football player. He's really come a longggggggg way.
I don't understand the concern, we signed a LG and backup RT in FA. QB is so over rated with a good OL we could plug anyone in.
Winston you lose so much credibility when you make these kind of poo-poo comments. No one is suggesting that you can throw just any QB out there. What people have said is that last years OL was so bad that Pennington or Clemens needs a chance to show what they can do with time to throw the ball and a ground game that can move the chains. Pennington has already shown in his career that he can be successful behind a solid OL.
Most of the NFL Defense including our own play a brand of bend don't break D. The reason is the league has changed the rules to favor the passing game and they can't load up in the box as much. Teams allow teams to move the chains in this league because on long methodical drives something eventual goes wrong. Moving the chains proves pretty much nothing, scoring TD's something Pennington has been totally inadeqaute against any kind of good D is the problem. On top of that his TD to INT ratio has gone down the shoot which means either his decision making process isn't very good or his arm isn't capable of what his brain thinks it is. We have had sensational special teams, consistent points on D and special teams and really good field postion and our scoring is pathetic. The last great game Pennington had that was meaningful against SD in the playoffs our O put up 13 points against a team who at the time was a middle of the pack pass D. We know what Pennington can do with a great OL and a HOF running back. We don't have a real clue on Clemens. That doesn't mean Clemens will succeed at all with a good OL just that he might bring something to the table we don't have now, the ability to break a bend don't break NFL D, something Chad is totally incapable of anymore. Regarding Cred, speak for yourself, who are you to paint a broad brush on anyone?
Numbers lie like H**l when it comes to Chad! If you listen to all the analyst they say that stat should be abolished. Chad has a great passer rating because he is the king of one yard Completions. These numbers are from the Pro Football Hall of fame site. To even Justify any list that would have Chad Pennington and Daunte Culpepper ahead of Dan Marino, Brett Farve, Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw or Joe Namath is beyond a joke! This stupid stats proves that Dante Culpepper should have been signed for 2Mil and the Rest of the money used to sign Depth for both our lines. If you think this stat can show that chad is anywhere near the above mentioned Quarterbacks it shows an absolute lack of football knowledge and a love for Chad to the point that you need to use a joke of a stat to justify him even being mentioned with the greats of the game. He is the king of the 2 yard pass on 3rd and ten. There are 100 Qb's on this list that are better than Chad. Td's and Yardage is what matters! Career Passer Rating Career Passing Leaders (at the start of the 2007 NFL Season) Ratings for every NFL quarterback who has recorded 1,500 career attempts 1 Steve Young* 96.81 2 Peyton Manning 94.37 3 Kurt Warner 93.77 4 Joe Montana* 92.26 5 Marc Bulger 91.26 6 Daunte Culpepper 90.75 7 Chad Pennington 89.32 8 Tom Brady 88.36 9 Drew Brees 87.54 10 Trent Green 87.48 11 Jeff Garcia 86.43 12 Dan Marino* 86.38 13 Donovan McNabb 85.19 14 Matt Hasselbeck 85.10 15 Brett Favre 85.05 16 Rich Gannon 84.71 17 Brian Griese 84.54 18 Jim Kelly* 84.39 19 Mark Brunell 84.21 20 Jake Delhomme 84.05 21 Roger Staubach* 83.42 22 Steve McNair 83.18 23 Brad Johnson 83.08 24 Neil Lomax 82.68 25 Sonny Jurgensen* 82.62 26 Len Dawson* 82.56 27 Ken Anderson 81.86 28 Bernie Kosar 81.83 29 Neil O'Donnell 81.82 30 Danny White 81.71 31 Troy Aikman* 81.62 32 Dave Krieg 81.50 33 Randall Cunningham 81.47 34 Boomer Esiason 81.06 35 Warren Moon* 80.90 36 Jeff Hostetler 80.48 37 Bart Starr* 80.47 38 Ken O'Brien 80.44 39 Jeff George 80.42 40 Fran Tarkenton* 80.35 41 Steve Beuerlein 80.32 42 Dan Fouts* 80.23 43 John Elway* 79.86 44 Tony Eason 79.72 45 Elvis Grbac 79.65 46 Chris Chandler 79.12 47 Mark Rypien 78.93 48 Jim Everett 78.59 49 Aaron Brooks 78.53 50 Phil Simms 78.48 51 Bert Jones 78.21 52 Johnny Unitas* 78.20 53T Jim McMahon 78.17 53T Otto Graham* 78.17 55 Jeff Blake 78.03 56 Bobby Hebert 78.00 57 Frank Ryan 77.61 58 Jim Harbaugh 77.60 59 Joe Theismann 77.37 60 Bob Griese* 77.14 61 Jay Fiedler 77.13 62 Drew Bledsoe 77.06 63 Bill Kenney 76.98 64 Erik Kramer 76.64 65 Gary Danielson 76.58 66 Doug Flutie 76.34 67 Jon Kitna 76.08 68 Stan Humphries 75.83 69 Michael Vick 75.75 70 Wade Wilson 75.57 71 David Carr 75.50 72 Steve Bartkowski 75.44 73T Ken Stabler 75.31 73T Gus Frerotte 75.31 75 Scott Mitchell 75.28 76 Steve Bono 75.27 77 Vinny Testaverde 75.24 78 Tim Couch 75.14 79 Norm Van Brocklin* 75.07 80 Sid Luckman* 75.01 81 Chris Miller 74.93 82 Don Meredith 74.84 83 Brian Sipe 74.79 84 Jake Plummer 74.61 85 Roman Gabriel 74.29 86 Steve DeBerg 74.24 87 Earl Morrall 74.09 88 Y.A. Tittle* 73.65 89 Craig Morton 73.52 90 Rodney Peete 73.30 91 Kerry Collins 73.19 92 Don Majkowski 72.95 93T Daryle Lamonica 72.94 93T Greg Landry 72.94 95 Ron Jaworski 72.78 96 Tommy Kramer 72.77 97 Tony Banks 72.36 98 Bubby Brister 72.28 99 John Brodie 72.27 100 Milt Plum 72.22 101 Sammy Baugh* 72.21 102 Billy Wade 72.19 103 Jay Schroeder 71.68 104 Billy Kilmer 71.56 105 Bill Munson 71.49 106 Trent Dilfer 71.30 107 Lynn Dickey 70.94 108 Terry Bradshaw* 70.92 109 Kordell Stewart 70.69 110 Bill Nelsen 70.25 111 Vince Ferragamo 70.08 112 Steve Grogan 69.61 113 Doug Williams 69.39 114 Charley Johnson 69.21 115 Mike Tomczak 68.91 116 Eric Hipple 68.68 117 Joe Ferguson 68.45 118 Charlie Conerly 68.25 119 Joey Harrington 68.14 120 Dave Brown 67.89 121 Billy Joe Tolliver 67.74 122 Marc Wilson 67.70 123 Tom Flores 67.58 124 Richard Todd 67.57 125 Jim Plunkett 67.45 126 John Hadl 67.41 127 Jim Zorn 67.28 128 Archie Manning 67.10 129 Jim Hart 66.56 130 Norm Snead 65.54 131 Joe Namath* 65.46 132 Rick Mirer 63.53 133 Bobby Layne* 63.38 134 Jack Trudeau 63.32 135 Mike Livingston 63.27 136 Mike Pagel 63.26 137 Ed Brown 62.77 138 Mark Malone 61.89 139 Bob Waterfield* 61.58 140 Eddie LeBaron 61.43 141 George Blanda* 60.65 142 Babe Parilli 59.59 143 Dan Pastorini 59.06 144 Jack Kemp 57.35 145 Tobin Rote 56.79 146 Cotton Davidson 54.88 147 Mike Phipps 52.63 148 Frank Tripucka
Comments like this really add to the discussion. Keep em coming Quite frankly I've seen more garbage like this from you than I'd expect. And that's what I was referring to. But whatever, keep making your "funny" but pointless comments
We disagree about Chad, I understand you can't keep up with the debate and have to resort to attacking the messenger. If this is the best you can bring to your argument so be it.
You can't be serious? can you? I have no problem debating Pennington vs. Clemens. I'm not attacking your for your opinion so I'm not even sure where you got that. You made a miserable attempt at a joke by twisting what people have been saying regarding the Offensive Line. And to me that doesn't nothing to add to the debate. I'm sorry you took my criticism of your comment the wrong way. My comment to you had nothing to do with Chad.
I get it now it was merely a personal attack. Thanks for the clarification. I wrongly assumed it was your debate technique since personal attacks aren't allowed on the board and you are a Mod.
Just about as much as what you bring to the boards. But thanks for entering the discussion. Your opinion matters so much
Your kidding with this thread right? Because I cannot see how you can POSSIBLY believe that 1. Ainge would REMOTELY help us in winning and 2. That Pennington is SOLELY the blame for the past few seasons when things went bad D'Brick ALONE gave up 23.5 sacks over the last 2 season our o line @ BEST ... was TERRIBLE last year. And coming back rusty the '06 season, which by the way we had 10 wins from a SECOND shoulder surgery could not POSSIBLY have had ANYTHING to do with Penny not having his BEST stuff. 05, he was GONE most of the season, and him playing with a messed up wing throughout the ENTIRE '04 season, with back up options like Brooks Bollinger, come on. The guy at least TRIES which is more than anyone can say for MOST players in this league. Chad may not be the promising QB he used to be, but AINGE? Dude, seriously. Clemens MAYBE but Ainge, you have GOT TO be kidding:rofl:
