Do people really not remember how horrendously bad Pennington has been the last few years? He single handedly cost the Jets numerous games last season with interceptions at bad times. His arm and his decision making are both shot, regardless of the state of the OL. Even back in 2004, a supposed good year for him, Pennington pretty much handed off and tossed some short passes to Martin and Sowell. People were angry with Hackett but his schemes pretty much got the most out of Pennington's capabilities. That 04 team was 12-4 or better with a real QB. Pennington does not have the ability to win more than 10 games or get anywhere close to a SB, not at this point. I'd rather see Clemens, who wasn't great under pressure last year, but who is relatively untested, or even Ainge, who is a complete unknown. Starting Pennington is killing the 08 Jets before the season even begins.
If you think pennington was bad.... double that and add 500 on it, and thats what you get with ainge starting...
No, I agree. I'd rather have Ainge start. I have had enough of Pennington. I can't this shit anymore. I'm sick of him being the face of the team. I'm sick of him being the easy go-to joke for anyone ready to mock the Jets. I'm sick of his lob passes that get Coles killed. He always does just enough to not make everyone hate him and to convince everyone to let him be the starting QB. I'm sick of this shit. I want a star. I want a warrior.
I'd really rather not think about it coming down to those two. Please, please, please tell me that Clemens has gotten his rough, inconsistent first season behind him. I worry that the QB competition in camp will be damaging to him, and that he'd be much better off with a full TC as the starter. Either way, I don't want a 5th round rookie QB starting with the additions we've made. That's like giving up on this season, on both of our experienced QBs, and giving the middle finger to the fans.
So your idea is to take a guy with similar arm strength and less experience in reading defenses and adjusting routes?
I don't think any QBs in the NFL have "similar arm strength" to Chad Pennington. Ainge's arm has been described as being at least adequate if not above par, which is a hell of a lot better than can be said for Chad. And Chad's skills at reading defenses are pretty suspect after the debacle last year. I'm not really for starting Ainge unless Clemens also proves to be a total disaster, which isn't real likely. The point is that even Ainge is a better option than CP.
Clemens really did post some 'eye popping' numbers last season when he posted a staggering 60+qb rating. No QB in this league, let alone just the Jets, can do that. And Ainge, great accuracy and leadership with a relatively weak arm and immobile. Does'nt all that sound a bit too similar to CP? Who knows the playbook better? Who has been in the NFL longer? Who is more experienced? Who has won more game for the Jets than lost em? Who was cheered after he was sacked big time in 2007 and got up waving his hand? Who the heck do you think CP is? I will be very pissed if CP is benched. Kellen did'nt show much potential (thus far) to take over CP. CP is the reason why we have actually won a few games. How many superstars did this Jets team had to take em to the Super bowl? How many Moss-Brady-Welker or the entire NE defense like players have we had in the past to take us anywhere near the super bowl? Did'nt CP take us inches away from the AFC champ game if 'Doug the bum' did'nt miss those two FGs? How close was 'Vinny the laser arm'? "I would rather have Ainge start than Pennington"....I got two words for you mate...oh please...With the exception of last season, CP has been the reason why we have been winning a few, not the other way around.
Starting a rookie QB in his year 1 is a fantastic way to ruin a QB. For every Peyton Manning, you will find more than 10x Kyle Bollers and Ryan Leafs.
Lets throw a rookie QB drafted in the 5th round out there and wing it... good job. Pennington's career is at the point where its time to be back-up guy. No longer can carry a team through 16 games. Never could last 16 games. Clemens is the only guy worth starting this out of the QBs we have.. and thats not saying much.
Manning went 3-13 in his rookie year as he threw 28 INTs. It is extremely rare that a rookie QB will have success and it becomes even more unlikely that a 5th rd QB will have success in year 1. I don't believe Ainge will be anything more than a good backup and if you throw him to the wolves in year 1 it may ruin whatever small shot he has at success in this league. If Eric Ainge is starting it's b/c Chad, KC and Bret Ratliffe got hurt and if the Jets for some reason couldn't find a veteran QB on the street. I have as good of a chance to start for the Jets this year as Eric Ainge and it is silly to want or expect him to start this year.
A rookie QB vs a 9 yr veteran...this is really a great idea you have working here. I'm not saying that Pennington is going to take us to the Super Bowl but he can at least manage the games for us. He's still good enough to not cost us the game if he doesn't try to win it on his own. The only reason he was forcing passes like that at the end of the game was because he had to make up for the defense which usually blew whatever lead we may have had while the defense was barreling down his throat. More times than not we were playing from behind and when we had a lead the defense did a good job of blowing it and Pennington was left to try and pick up the pieces, all the while being sacked 26 times in 9 games. I know he's a back-up at best for the team - if you believe the press reports, he couldn't get over an ankle sprain in 15 games - but WTF??? The team had a disasterous season all around and I'm sick of the f*cking scapegaoting at QB. Harris, Revis, Rhodes, Washington, and Jones are the only ones who played consistently well during the year. That leaves 40 other active players to share the blame and they didn't all play QB with an ankle sprain.
CHAD cost us three games last year will poorly thrown passes and poor decisions! No mas! Every game he starts for us this year, will put us further away from winning a SB soon. I do not think AINGE is the answer but we have a vested interest in seeing what KELLEN brings to the table with a lot better OL, and healty receivers this year. PLUS just maybe the staff will actually have some plays designed for him. He was forced to play dink and dunk football last year! That is not his game!
then you are obviously not looking to have a chance in hell, of winning anything, and you just blew $140million of woodys money:up:
Chad may have ended 3 games or so but he was part of the problem, he didn't cost us those games. The D not being able to hold multiple double digit leads, no running game, no pass protection and poor QB play all contributed to our horrendous season but let's not forget this was Chad's FIRST poor season when he was relatively healthy. You don't throw a guy away based on 1 poor season especially w/ how awful we were around him. Kellen was NOT forced to play dink and dunk, while he has a good arm he had very little accuracy esepcially on the deep ball where he got Coles hurt on that flea flicker when Coles was open by about 15 yards. I am not giving up on Kellen either but don't make ridiculous excuses for him. I expect he'll be alot better this year, 1st year QBs always take their lumps and w/ improvements around him I expect a much better KC as well. I think we'll have a good competition this summer w/ Chad ultimately beating out KC.
