Parcells prepared to pick Gholston Number 1

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    He had a few more good picks besides Thomas. Farrior was a good pick, the problem was we traded the #1 overall which turned out to be future HOFer Orlando Pace. The leon Johnson pick was good he just got hurt, he lucked out w/ Fergsuon failing a drug test but he did make the pick so he gets credit.
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    He's not only been successful he's been almost instantly successful. Whether he can do that from a skybox is not clear but I hate the fact that he's in Miami while the Jets are in a negative flux. There's no faster way for the Jets to wind up cellar dwellers again and for several seasons.
     
  3. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Really? He could sign him cheap? The #1 overall pick in the draft and he'd be signed cheap?

    Links please....and since it's so "widely published"...multiple links please. Links on everything you just made up *again* in this post.

    Fall out of the top 10...ROTFL....
     
  4. Johnny4

    Johnny4 New Member

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    He is an above average GM. Its all about the record.
     
  5. HardHitta

    HardHitta Well-Known Member

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    I Guess VG is just that much of a beast , Happy he fell to us an im eager to see how he plays for us in Green & White.
     
  6. thegoldengod

    thegoldengod Active Member

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    i read somewhere that despite the contract talks with gholston...that chris long was #2 on parcells list
    gholston was our 3rd option as well...long, mcfadden, gholston
    i'm happy with the pick
     
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    Miamipuck New Member

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    hahaha I missed this................well done.:rofl:
     
  8. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    where do you come up with this shit? do you expect anyone to ever take anything you say seriously when you come out with BS like this and try to pass it as cold, hard facts? c'mon.
     
  9. redneckjet

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    This all sounds like BS.......I LOVE THE PIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. 1969jets

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    Thanks Johnny4, any fair minded person would recognize Parcells as an above average GM.

    NYJUNC: To suggest that Groh as the coach had control over the 2000 draft is laughable. Yea, Parcells is someone who would delegate that responsibility!!! Give me a break. He's a control freak if nothing else. You are embarrassing yourself. Stop it!

     
  11. ajetsfan4ever

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    would definatly need a link for this
     
  12. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The record was good b/c the Coach was good(great) BUT let's also not forget that only 3 of his last 7 seasons coaching(and as a GM) have his teams made the postseason then I guess the proof is that he's a mediocre at best GM?

    First off there was a HUGE difference from the '97-'99 embarrassing drafts to that '00 draft, secondly parcells deferred all criticism of the Keyshawn trade to Al Groh saying Al was in charge of everything. Do I think Parcells played a role? Of course he was invovled but he had one foot out of the door.

    http://www.cjonline.com/stories/012500/spo_groh.shtml
     
  13. man2man_cover

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    The man is WAY BEYOND average. His legacy will not only be measured by the number of SB wins he had but also by the number of head coaches proliferating the league now who have fallen from the Parcells coaching tree. That cheating jackass in NE included.

    Beyond that he has turned around The Patriots, Jets and Cowboys into legitimate contenders within the window that he operated in.

    His coaching legacy is matched only by Bill Walsh who, consequently, never had to re-build a floundering franchise from scratch. Anyone who resides in the NFL's coaching pantheon is beyond the average.

    Additionally, any successful manager will delegate responsibilities to his subordinates but the last call is always his. Don't fool yourselves, succeed or fail, Parcells's finger is always at the trigger whenever critical decisions need to be made. Bet your life on it.
     
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  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Great coach, all-time great coach who will one day be in the Hall of Fame but average GM.
     
  15. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    He has the first overall pick in the draft and hes thinking about going after a player because he could have him "cheap". This is a joke right?

    Trade down if you want cheap and get more players which you need.

    Widely published? Don, your posts are becoming borderline absurd. Just put little asterisk next to them with a disclaimer stating * "Im lying because I hate this regime", next to it.

    This way, instead of all us thinking you are nuts...we can all share a laugh and say "Crazy Don!...Dons just being Don."
     
  16. man2man_cover

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    Making the final decisions on drafting and free agent pick-ups are the types of tasks that GM does. But in doing so, he has to rely upon his subordinates for the right information. A GM not only oversees the team's business/player affairs but he also sets the tone for the team's culture. This is even more important than making the right call come draft day.

    Name one GM today that can turn around a moribound team's culture the moment that he walks into the door.

    Under whose tutelage did Pioli (regarded as one of the top GM's in the league) learn from?

    No..Parcells is an above average GM to say the least.
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Show me his drafts and FA moves that qualifies him as an above average GM? He didn't have that power w/ the Ginats, he had it from '93-'05 e/ NE and then NE had their best draft of the parcells era in '96 when Parcells was stripped of that power, he did a terrible job from '97-'99 here, he was nothing more than medicore in Dallas. Let's not forget the Jets had talent, they were an awfully coached team but they had talent when he came here in '97 as did Dallas in 2003. dallas was considered an up and coming team for 2-3 years but could never take that next step until he got ther b/c he is a great coach.

    What does Pioli have to do w/ Parcells being a good GM? Parcells coached under Ray Perkins w/ the Giants then obviously became a much better coach- does Perkins become a better coach b/c someone under him did better than him?
     
  18. notjustQBs

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    Well, there's always a fool around who will say anything if you just stick a mike in his face.

    There is no question that Parcells got who he wanted at the price that he wanted. Jake Long was the only guy he talked to and he negotiated with his agent successfully.
     
  19. notjustQBs

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    The GM is only part of the Draft team. There are a lot of folks who have inputs, and the job of the group is to come to a consensus. There's no question that Parcells put in his two cents, whether he was a position coach, coordinator, head coach, or a GM. Parcells represents an overall approach to football. That's where Pioli is coming from -- and he and Bellichick benefited greatly from their work in the Parcells teams. All of these guys are their own men and Parcells, I assure you, wouldn't have it any other way.

    So let's stop with the star crap. The Parcells approach is deserving of respect, just as the Walsh approach is, and so on.
     
  20. feelthepain

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    I'm thrilled to have Parcells as PFO. I like that everyone under him go to him for advise, for everything from talent evaluation to coaching techniques. I don't know how much influence BP had with the Dolphins draft this year, but I'll be the first to tell you I love our draft. We drafted Big men in every position we drafted. We drafted for need and for BPA at the same time. I think our Oline is going to be a very good Oline and quickly.

    LT) Jake Long
    LG) Shawn Murphy
    C) Samson Satele
    RG) Justin Smiley
    RT) Vernon Carey

    I like the fact that Miami's focus in this draft was in the trenches. We also got one of the better college QB's with Henne. Miami has had decent drafts the last three years, but not great drafts. This year I think we had a great draft.

    I think Miami will be on the rise this year. I won't predict a playoff run, but I will say we will be a much tougher team to beat. I think out ST will be 10 times better then last year because that has been Miami's main focus this off season.

    As for BP everywhere he's been he's turn the teams around, be it by his drafting or coaching or intimidation one way or another he gets the ship right. Miami has needed this for a while and I think we're due.
     

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