Jet fans never stop crying.....

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  1. Hemi

    Hemi Well-Known Member

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    Unbelievable. Some fans will never be happy no matter what we do.

    I trust in the FO because I look at there recent history of drafting quality over quantity. What is there to complain about.

    The first year they draft Ferguson, Mangold, Washington, Smith...ect.

    Last year we get a two future Pro Bowlers in Harris and Revis.

    This offseason they finally get the big space eater the middle of the D needed, pick up a pass rushing OLB, beef up the Oline with a Pro Bowl guard...

    Still people complain. Without having any idea how Gholston and Keller are going to pan out.....RELAX!!!!
     
  2. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Thank You.
    Amen.
    +1.
     
  3. Sundayjack

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    I'm not all that critical about anything that happened today. However, I see enough of these types of "give 'em a chance" threads around this place to prompt my response.

    I can't even begin to count the hours I invest in this team. They were 4-12 last year. I'm entitled to be critical. More to the point, they haven't earned any benefit of any doubt from me. Not at all. We had encouraging play out of our 2007 picks. Fine. I agree. I STILL had to sit through TWELVE losses. I'm entitled to criticize where I see something I hate.
     
  4. Kenny

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    I'm sure it's the same people that complained when we took revis last year, probable wanted Leon Hall.
     
  5. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    Maybe because its been 10 years since we fielded anything close to an elite team.
     
  6. VegasMav

    VegasMav Well-Known Member

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    Who cares about the cry babies...

    We're just fans. If we were smarter than the FO, we'd be working for the Jets.
     
  7. Hemi

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    This regime is only had two years so far....the team is close I believe.

    You will see a much better team this year.
     
  8. Sundayjack

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    So, just to be clear, it's year three where we get to start being critical? So, if they fail again this year and someone new comes in, does that mean I have to wait another three years?
     
  9. asscue35

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    I think most of us fans think we know better than the front office, although we do not do any of the work or preparation needed prior to the draft.As soon as the big name or favorite players who we adore are not selected we label them as busts.Sometimes we even get upset when some positions are selected.Lastly, we like to see our team draft a lot of players, when we trade some of those picks we as fans get upset.I really do not care who we draft so long as they are good players and I trust the front office more than I trust the naysayers.The doomsday prophets who lambast our choices are the same ones who have no CLUE outside of watching college football on saturdays and drinking beer.I put my faith in those who scout and watch film, not those like myself who sit at home and watch the games on ESPN.
     
  10. Beamen

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    I'll sign on here


    Nothing bothers me more than the idea put forward by some fans that we should just trust, and go along with everything the team and FO does. We invest enormous amounts of time, energy and money in the team, and, when they are not giving us a return on our investment (in either entertainment value or the satisfaction of victory) we had BETTER be critical....
     
  11. abyzmul

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    The days of sitting back and accepting what the team is doing because we don't know the big picture are over. We live in an age where they shorten the pick selection period to increase ratings, this is the information age and the NFL fan is much different than he was 20 years ago.

    The more access we have to information, the smarter the average fan gets with their team, and with the amount of money and time (I feel you Sunday) that we spend obsessing about this stuff, I think the more entitled we are to complain when things go bad. And they were very bad in '07. Telling people to relax isn't going to do it, everybody has their own idea of what will make the team better and when you tell them to relax, you're telling them they're wrong and to shut up and be lemmings. I don't buy that at all.

    If I see something wrong with what this team is doing, and I have plenty of experience at THAT, I'm going to bitch about it in a public forum with my fellow fans.

    Having said that, I am not entirely displeased with this draft so far, although I am going to reserve any judgment until they take the field. I wasn't entirely happy this time last year trading up twice on day 1, but we all know how that's has worked out so far. Having faith is one thing. But blind faith isn't healthy.
     
  12. asscue35

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    Nothing wrong with being critical.Be critical all you want.Our FO is not perfect they have made mistakes and will make mistakes.The point is base your critique on something constructive.I am amused when people say, well, you didnt have to trade up to get him.How does anyone know that by sitting in the comfort of their home and watching ESPN/NFL Network? Some of us don't know anything about Keller, but some are already calling him a bust.How objective and sensible is that?
     
  13. boomer

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    You're preaching to the wrong choir. :grin:
     
  14. VegasMav

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    I choose to be critical when I have an invested interest in this team. I've been a season ticket holder since 1995 and I have faith in the FO. I don't know why, but I do.
     
  15. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    I had enormous trust and faith in Mangini when we hired him and after his first year. Now I belive we need to trust and verify. The season is when we will verify. I'm not particularly in love or in hate with either of our picks at this point. I have no doubt we have gotten better as has every team in our division and most of the teams in the NFL today.
     
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    I understand time invested, stuff like that. I have been a fan for over 20 years now and have been disappointed time and time again. But all I see lately on this board is complaining about the draft. It's the same crap from last year when they traded up for Harris. And lo and behold, now he's the "Hitman" and everyone loves him. It doesn't happen overnight. This regime must be given a chance to succeed. It is not blind faith, they are just cleaning up the mess that Herm left behind. A soft team that was just scraping by. If it wasn't for players like Curtis Martin, this team would have been a disaster with Herm.
     
  18. Sundayjack

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    I've said this before - I'm ALWAYS waiting for something else to develop. With Herm, it was Ted Cottrell's defense old and slow defense with players unfit for the system . . . until it was young players working into a new system. . . . until it was Hackett's predictable and conservative offense. . . until it was Herm's poor game management. . . .until it was Mangini's new system. . . . until it was young players. . . until it was, umm, defensive players unfit for the, ummm, system. . . .until it was younger, <sigh> uhh, players, umm, working into a new, umm, system . . . .


    There's no friggin' place like home. . . . there's no friggin' place like home. . . .
     
  19. Roy_Munson

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    Let's all hold hands and root-root-root for the home team!
    = (
     
  20. Hemi

    Hemi Well-Known Member

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    I hear you. But it looks like now, at least with this regime, and the 3-4, that most of the defensive pieces are in place. Let's see how this year goes, then call for Mangini's head, so that we can start all over.....again.

    I have belief though, that this year will be different. As a Jet fan, I will always believe that.
     

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