I don't believe the raiders will take McFadden

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  1. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    And if Davis fires him he will have to pay his contract in full. What does Kiffin care? He can laugh along with the rest of us.
     
  2. notjustQBs

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    Well, Kiffin is a young guy, and his career may be more important to him than his bank account at this juncture.

    That's been a lot of people's experience at his age.

    I think Kiffin really wants to succeed at this.
     
  3. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Huff- Trading Block
    Washington - Trading Block

    At least our trading block players have knee injuries that will cripple them and hurt the other teams depth charts, which can benefit us greatly if the draft picks we get for them become better than them (odds are in our favor). Your trading block guys are young with upside yet the Raiders want to get rid of them.... what?

    Players who have great careers aren't on the trading block after 2-3 years. If Revis is going to be traded in 2010, let me know. Same thing with Brick or Mangold.


    Please learn how to step away from your team and look at the big picture. I can't tell you how many of us do that here a TGG. I'm proud of my fellow posters to know when the team completely blows or when a player needs to leave. You sir, need to learn to know when your team or players blow- like from 2003-now.
     
  4. Raiderjoe

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    Raiders are going to be a hybrid defense next year.(4-3 and 3-4) They have the personel to play both defenses very well. Friends of Grady Jackson say hes coming back to the Raiders(probably after the draft so not to tip off there intentions+ has to clear up some legal issues) Raiders could use another pass rusher (who can't) Lets see why Raiders are not really in bad shape rushing the QB. LEts see you have D Burgess , K Edwards( K Milliard Raiders Dline coach has made a living at bringing out the best in these guys) Thomas Howard -would be a beast coming off the corner. (would easily give what clemons gave and probably surpass them)

    Lets see Raiders will probably keep at ther most 9 DLIneman(eight More realistic)
    1. DT /DE Tom Kelly 2. D Burgess DE/OLB 3. Gerard Warren DT/DE /NT 4. Terdel Sands DT/NT 5 Jay Richardson De 6. William Joseph DE/DT 7 Kalimba Edwards 8. Grady Jackson(if true will be their Dline rotation DT and NT.

    Only DE I think they don't pass on is Chris long. IF Long gone I think they might go for LB over the Dlineman.
     
  5. You have the guts to call D'brickashaw a bust when you have Robert Gallery on your roster? :lol:

    What is your deal anyway? The jets arent in your division, your team is NOT a contender so the jets pose NO immediate threat...why do you feel the need to come here and make RIDICULOUS statements to piss everyone off?
     
  6. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    M Huff is not On trading Block. Like I said you look at the job he has done on the top TEs in the game and hes not going anywhere. (thats very important when you play in the AFC West) Where Huff is going is moving to his more natural Position FS from SS
    Don't Believe here is Kiffin own words.
    Q: Is Michael Huff in the plans?

    A: "Yes, Michael Huff is in our plans. Definitely. Michael playing back and Gribril playing down. He's always been an in the box safety."


    Now why Is Fabian Washington possible on the Block. Lets see You have asomugha, Deangelo Hall and Stanford Routt(In time might be best of them all). With development CB John Bowie. AT best F Washington is the fourth CB. Raiders are under no opressure to get rid of Washington. Team makes an offer they like than they trade him. IF notn they probably hold on to him.
    Again IN F Washington rookie year he holded up alot better in coverage, than your Revis.
     
  7. Raiderjoe

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    Yes That Same Robert gallery(okay now playing LG) who helped the Raiders have the six best rushing attack in football. D brickshaw Ferguson has given up more sacks than any OT the last two years. We know his run blocking horrible.

    jmo Raiders are closer to be a contender, than the jETS ARE. Time will tell.
     
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  8. Yes that same Robert Gallery who got selected top 3 overall to be a dominant blindside lineman and is being PAID like one...who is now a slightly above average interior lineman.


    I would love to see the official stat that says D rbick has given up more sacks than any other Lineman. I can tell you I watch O-lineman closer than any other position..and i specifically watch Brick. He is well on his way to be a fantastic LT...he improved immensely this past year, unfortunately it didnt show b/c he had a turnstile next to him at LG. I have absolutely NO doubt in my mind that he will have a VERY good year w/ a top 5 veteran guard next to him in Faneca. And unlike Gallery...he wont be moved al over the O-line to try and find a place for him till his lucrative contract subsides.

    Oh yeah...and I could give a shit if you think the raiders are closer to being contenders than the jets are...it still doesnt answer the question as to why you're here w/ your ridiculous off base sentiments.
     
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  9. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Revis and Washington are both 1st round picks.... you can't be trying to tell me that Revis will be on the block in 2011?

    Do you know how much time you waste when you advertise the other guys on the Raiders roster. Not on the post you responded to me but on all the rest. Making look like the 3rd guy on your depth chart is pro bowl bound doesn't make you look good. I don't post on here how Drew Coleman or CJ Mosely could make a real impact playing 15% of the snaps in a game. Be reasonable.
     
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  10. He really does go completely out of his way to piss us all off. He thinks everyone of our young players is a bust...and chooses foolish arguements to further his agenda.

    At the same time...he rationalizes every IMAGINEABLE excuse to make the Raiders young players seem like future hall of famers.
     
  11. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Its a dellusional loyalty most Raiders fans have. It must be in the water in Oakland. Its the reason why i only hone my argument skills against the nonsense and never take it seriously, or else my blood pressure would hospitalize me. Its become a sideshow at this point. Not a good sign for Jeaux's credibility- which i dont think he ever had.

    To be fair, NE posters like DirtyWater or Giants Fans like Learn_to_Swim have credibility and are more than welcome to share their thoughts here. We don't attack non-Jet fans because they like another team. We are pretty fair to everyone, as long as they post lucid arguments/Comments.

    Funny story... A friend of mine was playing Call of Duty 4 on XBOX Live and a Raider fan had a moniker that had to do with the team, so i picked up the headset to talk to the Raiders fan and proceeded to tell him how the Raiders Sucked and why (19 wins, shitty, team, Al Davis, 4 Coaches, Jon Gruden, etc.)-- after small arguments made by him i asked him when Kiffin was going to be fired and he never returned an answer, then quit out of the match in defeat.... Raiders Fans, they all lose in the end.
     
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    Lol...Stanford Routt might be better than Aso and Hall...

    Find. A. Raiders. Board. Seriously...no one here could care less about the Raiders and their greatness dude...especially when complete and utter bullshit like that just nulls the minimal amount of good info you give us.

    That said...KJF Gallery is a pretty good G for the Raiders...may not be what he was drafted for but he was pretty damn good last year and has Steinbach-esque upside at the position...he may be a bust as a LT but the guys a pretty good player. And considering he's never actually had solid coaching at any position while being moved around alot...he may not even be a bust at LT. I think they should just keep him where he is because he'll be good there, but it's not crazy to think he could have a good career anywhere on the O-line if the Raiders as a franchise get their shit together.

    Could you imagine if we gave up on D'Brick at LT after this year? We'd all flip our shit talking about how his best fit is LT and on and on...while every other teams fans will be calling D'Brick a bust and talking about how we should have OBVIOUSLY went Cutler or Ngata or some other guy....but it's not and never is as clear cut as fans want to make it seem. Fans and owners have the luxury of being bottom line and results oriented when it comes to the sports because they don't have to deal with any of the bullshit that comes from working to be the best.
     
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    First all we don't even know what Revis is. All you have is one good second half from him. Like Washington showed his rookie year(was alot more consistanty in coverage than Revis) you have to see if he can continue to play the way he played in the second half, or was there other circumstances why he looked better than he is. ( Again only time going to tell) SO iF that second half was an illusion than YEs Revis might be on the block in two years.


    NOw ON to Stanford Routt(beat out Washington) YOU do know he was the Raiders starting CB opposite Asomugha for the most of 2007 season. Kiffin said CB was a strength before they acquired hall. He would have been the starter in 2008, but when you bring in a 24 two time probowler Deangelo Hall, someone has to be third CB. (asomugha not)
    Where Hall going to help is against slot reciever( he probably will slide inside) F Washington, Routt and asomugha all prefer playing outside.

    Here is what I said IN time ROutt could be better than any CB Raiders have. ITb is true. Routt is 6'1 195 with 4.28 speed and had second fastest three cone drill ever recorded at the combine. Why do scouts put so much emphasis on that three cone drill for CBs- Well a Cb job is to mirror a WR. IF you can make all the cuts and not lose any speed out your breaks, that alot more important for a CB, than having just straightline speed.

    Raiders wanted M Huff would be a top CB if they moved him there. They won't becauxse they are very good shape there and Huff gives raiders one best cover safeties in the game.
     
  14. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    People will never hold it against him that he was fired by the Raiders. Everybody gets fired by the Raiders in two years.
     
  15. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    It's more that just that. It's the entire left coast personality where everyone who lives there honestly thinks they are at the center of the universe and our world revolves around them.
     
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    In Time(not now) Routt might be the best Raiders CB. That what I said and it accurate.
    Has it all-size, blazing speed, and an off the chart three cone drill( second best time ever recorded) -scouts consider very important when they judge CB position. He is alot more physical tackler than he was given credit coming out of college.

    S Routt is already a very good starting CB( was raiders starting CB opposite asomugha), just his upside alot higher than any Raider cb on the roster. (thats including hall and asomugha) IS he as good as Asomugha and Hall right now? Of course not, but lets see if thats a case in two years. Classic Al Davis pick you can't teach speed. Why he took a chance on CB John Bowie( Trade for Moss) Will be Raiders developmental CB who more down the road, than going to help now. I haven't seen enough of Bowie to say he will ever justify his selection, but I have seen Routt.


    BTW- I don't believe Raiders will take MCfadden is title of thread. Im giving up a Raider fan perspective of what I think they will do.
     
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    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Can you do us a favor and go find an intelligent Raiders fan to give us thier perspective?

    Thx
     
  18. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Once again... Not one Jet fan giving a shit.

    I'm trying to teach you Jeaux- please begin to pay attention.
     
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    Just because you don't like the message, dosen't mean its not most likely going to happen..
     
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    Again your wrong. Easy to prove. Did I start the thread I don't see the Raiders taking MCfadden. NOw if you didn't care about the Raiders or their intentions, why are you in this thread. Just answer that question. Maybe you don't like my opinion what the Raiders are going to do. Again lets see how wrong I was after the draft.
     

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