Johnny4's Jet Mock V1.0

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  1. Johnny4

    Johnny4 New Member

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    O.K. this is my first try at one of these.So here goes....
    I want to trade down and our most likely trade partners are the Bengals and Saints. They only might want to move up a few spots and both would probably want to grab Ellis. In exchange we get back a 3rd rounder. Getting a 3rd rounder looks key for use because we could use it on a receiver. Here are the picks.
    1-D.R. Cromartie- If he's not a great corner, he'll be a great nickel or safety. He's 6'1 and will get his hands on some balls.
    2-Dre Moore- probably not a Mangini guy, but the 3-4 dt-de we need.
    3-Jordy Nelson-wr- I love this kid. Reminds me of Cotchery and a former safety.
    4-Jeremy Zuttah- Might not stil be around, but gives us depth at OG. Best available OL if he's there
    4-Dexter Jackson-wr- slot reciever we need. Might have to take a look sooner.
    5- Kellen Davis- Might slide here, but is a football player(whoops, I thought we had a 5th Its o.k Davis will be gone by the 4th))
    6 -j Leman- ILB- Another FB player type, reminds me of Schlegel but at #6 worth a shot.
    7- Pig Brown- s- we need a safety and he has a cool name.
     
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  2. Jmart

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    I wouldnt complain at all.
     
  3. Don

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    The Bengals will get Ellis if they stay where they are. The Saints, if they want him can wait to trade with Baltimore. Neither the Jets, Pats or Ravens will take a 4-3 DT.
     
  4. Johnny4

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    That doesn't mean someone else might not want him. Denver Carolina and Chicago all need a DT.
     
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  5. JetFanInPA

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    The trade down with Denver, Cincy or New Orleans is the most likely scenario IMO.

    I would love DRC if he's there. I'd also consider Devin Thomas or Limas Sweed.

    Dre Moore MIGHT got earlier due to his blazing 4.86, but he would be a nice pickup for us in the 2nd.

    Nelson does compare to Cotchery and is also bigger (6-3 220) and probably stronger. I like that pick as well.

    I would be OK with Zuttah long with a handful of other guys.

    I don't like Donnie Avery there since we just took Nelson in the 3rd. Don't forget that Brad Smith and Chansi Stuckey are still very capable WRs.

    We don't have a 5th round pick.

    J Lehman would be good with me, but Jameel McClain would be my personal choice at ILB.

    A guy named Pig? Sign me up.

    I think we have a second 7th round pick...

    Minus the Avery pick, this is a great mock draft with the most likely trade down scenario we have. Nice job..
     
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    Maybe one of these teams DO think he projects somewhere in a 3-4 defense. Even so, there's the threat of another team trading up to grab Sedrick Ellis. I think New Orleans has the best chance to do so. As do the Broncos. Sedrick Ellis is the type of player and holds the type of value at pick #6 that would certainly make a DT-needy club trade up for...
     
  7. Mr Electric

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    I would complain a lot.

    1st Round: If Rodgers-Cromartie isn't going to be a great corner, why would we take him in the first round? You can get a great nickel corner way later in the draft.

    2nd Round: I like the Dre Moore pick. He has the physical abilities to be dominant as a 3-4 end.

    3rd Rounder (that we probably won't get): Jordy Nelson? You give two reasons why you want to draft him - 1. You want to draft a receiver because he played safety in high school and 2. You want to draft him because he reminds you of another player that we ALREADY have. That is stupid. We need a speed receiver, or a big receiver. Nelson was great in college, but you can draft another receiver better than that in the 3rd round. There are at least 5 better wideouts that should be around.

    4th Rounders: Zuttah would be a solid pick, but he's definitely going to be gone, and another receiver? Dexter Jackson won't do anything for us, except maybe return some kicks if someone is injured. I know he's fast, but he's a small school guy that should be a late second day pick. Once again, better wideouts will be around.

    5th Round: Kellen Davis is athletic...but that's about it. I'd rather take a guy that's a receiving threat like Jacob Tamme. Tamme can actually stretch the field, and he'd work well paired with Chris Baker is 2 TE sets.

    6th Round: J Leman would be a great pick in the 6th round, but he shouldn't be there. That's the only pick I really support besides the Dre Moore pick in the 2nd. It's just not realistic, a lot like the Zuttah pick,

    7th Round: ...yeah, let's draft a former linebacker that has a cool name to play safety. At least some of the guys that do mocks on this board put effort into it. This is just a waste of time.
     
  8. Johnny4

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    Should change the name to Mr. Happy. The 7th round pick was joke, I thought the name was funny and I didn't take a safety yet. Jordy Nelson IS a big reciever(6'3), he smoked projected 1st rounder cb Talib for a TD. Showed great hands at the combine(I watched it) and ran a sub 4.5 forty. Did you see the size of this guy's lower body? He'll be a monster. What's wrong with him reminding me of Cotchery, a hard working underrated reciever in college that will surprise guys in the pros? Will Coles be here after this contract? Do we have a guy on the team now hat can start in another year? JLeman was projected to possibly not even be drafted by Scott Wright. I doubt he'll go before the 5th or 6th round. Dxter Jackson single handedly beat Michigan. Who needs a guy like that? Davis IS athletic. That's why I took him there. Special teams my friend. 1/3 of the game. He also has a couple of sacks playing DE. I thought Zyttah could fall because he was injured at his pro day. Also my point about DRC wasn't that I didn't think he was going to be good.(I think he will) My point was his height is a luxury and would make him versatile. Anything else?
     
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  9. Mr Electric

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    I do have something else.

    1. Cotchery broke about every receiving record at NC State. Torry Holt's records. He wasn't underrated, he just ran a poor 40 time.

    2. App State beat Michigan as a team...but if you're going to put the win on one guy, that guy should be Armanti Edwards. He doesn't know how to lose.

    3. Scott Wright isn't Jesus.

    4. I'm glad you watched the combine, but instead of focusing on the crotchal region of young men, you should've been looking at other, much more important things. Jordy Nelson isn't underrated, he's an All-American, but he won't be the same type of player in the pros. We don't have a 3rd rounder, and if we get one...someone faster, or taller will be there...and he's 6'2, not 6'3. Give Brad Smith a chance in the slot. If he doesn't turn the corner this season, then we can go out and draft a former safety to play wideout.

    Thank you. I'll be here all night.
     
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    Scott Wright isn't jesus, but Armanti Edwards is. You can't underestimate Dexter Jackson, though. He will be able to make an NFL roster. He's a speedy lil' fucker and is smooth with his cuts when he's running his routes.

    I love younohomo. I thought that I was the only guy that knew about this kid. I really think that he can be coached up into a good linebacker. He doesn't have the strength to back it up, but he has the tough, hit first-ask questions later mentality that you want in a linebacker. He played as both a defensive end and a linebacker in college and has impressive speed and good pass rushing skills.
     
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    Well if DMC isnt a great corner, why would we waist a 1st round on him
    Just becuase his brother or cousin or whatever is a proven NFL player doesnt mean he will be
     
  12. Johnny4

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    He is a great corner. The question is his competition. He is fast and tall which makes him more versatile, a true advantage in Mangini's scheme mixing D.
     
  13. Johnny4

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    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=12364
    http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/jordynelson.html
    Here's his height. Scott right isn't Jesus, but you ain't Einstein. Brad Smith had his chance, that is why we need a new receiver. Try watching games. FYI Cotchery was a 4th rounder, sounds underrated to me. The safety comment was more a testament to his toughness. I was talking about Nelson's legs when I spoke of his lower body, but didn't have you pegged for a cock and ball man. Congrats on the lifestyle, pecker checker. After this i won't take the bait anymore, I know you have nothing better to do.
     
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    Cromartie is going to be way more than a nickel CB in the league. Moore is a boom or bust player that I feel is worth the risk in the 2nd round. I think Jordy Nelson would be a great pick in round 3. He reminds me alot of wes welker actually. He is a good receiver. If we can get Zuttah in the 4th round I really don't know why anyone would question that. I think he is a lock for the 3rd. Dexter Jackson won't be good value in the 4th because he is a small school guy? I don'y really understand that one. He's fast and would be a great slot option for us. I agree that Tamme would be a better pick than Kellen, but you cant really complain over this pick for a 5th rounder. come on now. That is where his value is.
     
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    He's 6'2...like I said. Don't try to peg ME as gay because you said some queer shit.

    If you've already given up on Brad Smith then you "ain't Einstein". A player's third year is usually when they turn the corner. I watch all the football I can. Not just Jets' football. I think Brad Smith has what it takes to be a solid wideout for this team. I want to see a wide receiver drafted too...but not Jordy Nelson with our non-existant 3rd round pick.

    Jerricho Cotchery WAS a fourth rounder, but not because he was underrated. He was very productive in college and everyone knew who he was. He just doesn't have good timed speed, so his stock dropped.

    I got you again. Do You Want Some More?
     
  16. Johnny4

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    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.Sorry,your boring me. It's over, you lost.
     
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    I agree. But at this point in the NFL, a nickel is basically a starter.
     
  18. Mr Electric

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    Keep telling yourself that.
     
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    With a comment like that you're pretty much admitting that YOU have lost.
     
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    Maybe they think he *can* be a great CB? As shocking as this may sound, if a first round pick "busts" and doesn't become the HOF player he's expected to be, it's still possible they can/will end up good players.

    Yea, I love the Moore pick.

    Huh? Nelson is 3 inches taller than Cotchery and about 15 pounds heavier. He's similar in that he's tough as fuck, is a solid route runner, and he's got some speed and strength to get yards after the catch.

    And who are these 5+ WR's that should full here?

    Only thing that would have made me happier is if we ended up with Cottam.
     

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