Having a ball control running game that is coupled with a deep strike passing game is fine, love it. Having a ball control running game coupled with a ball control passing game is not my idea of an ideal situation. I understand we tried to use the short passing game to compensate for the lack of running game but the ability to strike a D that is trying to stop the control game weather it's by short passing or running makes everything easier by actually making the D cover more field. Without a timeing pattern Chad can't hit a 15 yard pass outside the hash marks. Those passes very often need to go 30 to 40 yards and unless it's a timed pattern, or outright uncovered Chad has trouble with them.
Correct. The Skins beat Woodley or whatever his name was. Woodley wasn't as good as Chad but he got there.
Did Woody have teams as formidable as the Pats, Chargers, Colts, Jaguars, Steelers and Browns to deal with during that time on the way to the playoffs? The Bills, Texans, Broncos and Titans are going to be hard enough to beat out for a playoff spot. Different time in the game.
Yeah, it was a great play. I actually cheered. But he essentially pulled a Donte Culpepper. Horrible decision, threw a turd into coverage and had his receiver bail him out with a miraculous catch. Like Moss and Carter used to do. Hardly make Eli a great QB all of a sudden.
Eli did nothing to get the Giants to the playoffs. He played well in January, agree, but one month does not constitute a season. He sucked in the regular season. Oh, and BTW, they had an OL where Ward shined. Ward was cut before the season by another team (I think it was us. not sure). That tells you they had a much superior OL that gave up less than half the sacks Jets did. He had alot of time in the pocket but still managed a 73 passer rating and you wanna compare that with CPs 86 where we had one of the worse OL in the league? Oh and about the 5 yard dumps, he was overly predictable. Teams played him up in the box. I agree. But how come he was still getting completions? CPs YPA and YPC was higher than Eli's. Eli did'nt win the SB, it was their defense that won it for him. I lost count how many times we sacked Brady in our two meetings. Im sure it was more than zero. Not saying CP is the answer but if we are arguing who's better in CP vs. Clemens, then i'l take CP anyday of his carear. As of now, Clemens has shown nothing that impressed the FO and thats the reason why CP is still around. I dont care what others think, but IMO, CP is the future of the Jets. Atleast for 2008-09. He'll get the job done. We are not SB contenders yet so I dont expect us to win the SB in the next couple of seasons atleast. Unless of course if Peyton, Moss, LT, Ed, Osi and a few others are released and signed by the JETS.
If we are not going to win in the nex couple of seasons then please tell me why we should pay Chad 7 Million a year instead of giving Kellen a full season to see what he can do under decent circumstances or draft the Qb of the future? If we are not going to compete for the Championship then what Job will Chad get done exactly? He might get you to a mediocre finish? The sad thing is we as jet fans have become so used to losing that we consider a playoff berth a victory. You think they think getting to the playoffs is a victory in Ne, Pitt, Dallas, Sd or Indy? The friggin Redskins don't even think a playoff berth is a successful season.
I think both Chad and Kellen are good QBs, they are just in different stages of their careers. It is a mistake to underestimate Chad, and it is also true folly to give up on Kellen who has little or no body of real work. The reason we will win the SB has to do with our OL, our RBs, and our Defense. If those three units don't excel and dominate, then it doesn't matter a damn who is the quarterback. We need to focus on CBs, S, DL and LB and OL. Never mind the ballet dancers. The Big Uglies will take care of it, or they won't. Until we can contend successfully on the line of scrimmage on a regular basis, then we won't win the SB. They have a lot of work to do.
can you imagine if every good quarterback that did not make the superbowl was dumped? warren moon would've been cut, bernie kosar would've been cut from the browns, peyton manning would've been cut long before he won a superbowl, but trent dilfer would be safe. hmy:
The key point in your post was good Quarterback. Moon and Manning are Hall of famers. kosar is better than Chad on a bad day. Dilfer had one of the best defenses in Sb History. Chad is just not good. Period. And I would have upgraded Dilfer the next season. It is not an accident they did not go back to the Sb. WIth that defense it is actually a crime.
i'm sorry, but saying that chad is the future of the jets causes me to think you are mildly retarded. Chads time has come and gone, i'm not doubting the fact he he was a good qb at one time, but why are we going to continue to have a qb start who can not get us to the sb? sure he can get wins under a good line, but 10-6 seasons with a wild card loss or a second round loss isn't what we want, we want a sb it's been too long now. i'm not saying clemens is the answer either, but we havent seen his full potential behind a good team, so i'll wait to pass judgement on him. as for your comment about eli, you say he did nothing to help the giants? put chad with the giants instead of eli, the giants dont win the sb.
Ok so Chad arm is a question . I think Kellens accuracy would be equally suspect. Hence the competition.
the difference is....Kellen's accuracy is coachable and can be rectified.....Chad's arm is a lost cause.....thus, a competition is useless.....give the reigns to Clemens.
I disagree..I think Kellen has decent potential...especially now that he's not playing behind a styrofoam o-line. Colt Brennan is a bigger farce than Pennington
I'm willing to bet we see better QB performance no matter whose out there. The OL is better, the running game should improve, and I like our receiving corps even before the draft. Cotchery and Coles are very good WRs. Stuckey has potential. Baker should be more involved now that he won't have to stay in and help the OL as much. Franks offers red zone ability and blocking skills. Chatman should be a good short yardage back.
agree with all your points.....but....the big play/deep ball will not be effective no matter how improved our o-line is or our run game...as long as CP is behind center.
