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  1. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    He did play very well in his only start. Thats with missing all of training camp, and having a limit knowledge of playbook. Again their isn't anything Cutler can do better than Russell, as a QB. If Russell dosen't get hurt he will have more sucessful career ,than Cutler.
     
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    Physical talent means absolutely nothing if it doesnt translate to the field on Sundays. Right now Russell is not better than any QB that has started the last year and a half in this league. No amount of your meaningless offseason predictions will change that.
     
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    I will take that wager. How much. Remember the loser has to donate that amount to this site.
     
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    Raiderjoe Banned

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    Okay thats true. RighT Now. You can say that with any rookie QB. (who hasn't proven himself yet) But like with Peyton manning I like my chances in the longrun of having this franchise Qb leading my team. Every Raider player that has seen him in practice said he going to be something special. There isn't anything he can't do.
     
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    Just so you know, JaMarcus Russell was never the QB prospect that Peyton Manning was at any point and I'mm saying it now will never be the QB that Peyton Manning has become.
     
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    I love how you make your post into a Denver sucks rant when all I said was that I live in Colorado. I am a Jet fan and would be happy to see the Broncos go 2-14 every year (with a sweep of the Raiders of course).

    I have changed my opinoin on the FB, while Sapp is more versatile, Griffith is the better blocker. However, the "Lorenzo Neal clone" comment is laughable. Neal is 5'11, 255lbs (listed), Griffith is 5'11 232lbs (listed).

    (And, there was no need to be a dick and call me an idiot.)
     
  7. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    $20

    Plus-- Sig congratulates the Raiders on the season and I will also say that Al Davis is the best owner in the NFL for all of 09.... If Denver wins, you always have to agree with me on how the raiders suck and Davis is a retard for 09 and 2010.

    You have much less to lose. I just know i'm already correct. 1st full year for Russell, Walker will get hurt sooner or later. Interim coach will win 1 game even if its Rob Ryan. Top pick is a bust, etc.... Al Davis is the owner/GM

    At least TGG is getting 20 bucks for the site. You welcome Petrozza, i'd would be more but i'm a college student and i'm broke. :grin:
     
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    Jeaux with predictions is like an addict with crack. No matter how bad the end result is for him, he just can't stay away.
     
  9. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    I don't know about you, Raiderjoe, but I thought Al Davis was great in this. In fact, he's still at it.

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    Edit: Disappearing image. Damn it.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Hehe, somebody should just cut off Crazy Al's head before he bites somebody and spreads his zombie virus to the greater Oakland area. If you can even use the terms 'greater' and 'Oakland' in the same sentence.
     
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    Your ON. But I can't ripp the icon AL Davis. Come up with a diffrent sig bet. The bet is which team Raiders and Broncos win more games next year. Obviously I have the Raiders. Is that correct.
     
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    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    HAHA! That's great!! :rofl:
     
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    Exactly, we have Raiders castoff fans here for some reason.

    With rose colored glasses on to boot.
     
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    You can't rip on Davis for 2 seasons?! Jesus Jeaux... gimme a day or two and i'll think of something.
     
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    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Well you make silly comments why Walker would want to leave a better situation in Denver, than he would be going to Oakland. I was just correcting you. Broncos heading in the wrong direction

    By Jeremy Green
    Scouts Inc.

    Updated: April 6, 2008

    This is a team and a franchise going in the wrong direction. The Broncos now have their third defensive coordinator in three seasons, and GM Ted Sundquist, who seldom was used in personnel decisions despite his expertise in that area, was fired. Head coach Mike Shanahan is a darn good football coach, but his track record in personnel decisions has not been very good. With him calling the shots, they continue to make mistakes in free agency and there is not a lot of great, young talent on this team. Denver does have a potential future star in QB Jay Cutler, and he may be able to mask a lot of the other offensive and defensive issues. But make no mistake, personnel issues still exist, and they won't go away until Denver hires a GM and gives him the authority to oversee the personnel decisions.

    Key Additions
    Give the Broncos credit for not sitting on their hands this offseason, but their additions do not outweigh their losses. Denver did not add one proven young player or a veteran who is not clearly on the downside of his career. Former Carolina WR Keary Colbert has been a bust since his rookie season, when he caught 47 balls; he has caught only 62 in the three years since. S Marlon McCree is limited, and nobody should know this better than Denver, which tried to attack him twice every season when he was in San Diego. C Casey Wiegmann, signed from Kansas City, is set to begin his 13th NFL season, but he struggled last season. How much he has left in the tank remains to be seen. S Marquand Manuel parlayed one good season in Seattle into a free-agent deal with Green Bay. Denver is now his third team in four years and fourth in his six-year career. MLB Niko Koutouvides was a backup in Seattle. He was signed in an effort to get get D.J. Williams back to WLB, where he is a better fit, but it seems like Koutouvides is a reach there.

    Boss Bailey is the best free agent Denver added, but he has not played up to expectations. Even when you look at the players Denver kept, you have to scratch your head. They re-signed DEs Ebenezer Ekuban, who is 31 and coming off a torn Achilles tendon, and John Engelberger, who had 41 tackles and a sack as a backup. Engelberger is a good worker, but this team needs some players on a shaky front four. It's hard to say Denver added one guy you could call a true quality starter out of these additions.

    Mock Draft: Broncos
    The Pick (No. 12 overall):
    OT Jeff Otah, Pittsburgh Insider

    Otah
    Todd McShay: The Broncos ranked 28th in points allowed and 30th versus the run last year, which explains the free-agent additions of SLB Boss Bailey, S Marquand Manuel and S Marlon McCree. Finding an upgrade at defensive tackle is the next priority. Unfortunately for Denver, Glenn Dorsey and Sedrick Ellis are off the board, and it's too early to take the next best option, Kentwan Balmer. At least the team can use the pick to solidify its offensive line with Otah. Then it can target a DT like Auburn's Pat Sims in Round 2.

    Key Losses
    Denver did not lose many players, but the few losses will be felt. LOT Matt Lepsis, the last remaining piece of what seemed like a pretty dominant offensive line only a few years ago, has retired. His loss means the Broncos now have questions at left offensive tackle and right offensive tackle. The team cut OLB Ian Gold, whose production dropped off last season. It's understandable why they let him go, but who takes over for him? The team parted ways with WR Javon Walker (Raiders). Yes, he was injured for much of last season, but his departure leaves the team with currently injured Brandon Marshall as the only legitimate threat outside. The team traded C Chris Myers to Houston for a sixth-round pick, even though a young Myers is a better starter than an aging Wiegmann.

    The biggest loss will be PK Jason Elam (Falcons), who has been Mr. Clutch. Denver, for the first time in more than a decade, now will learn what it feels like to hold your breath every time the kicking team walks out onto the field. S Nick Ferguson (Texans) was not retained as a free agent, but Denver doesn't lose much there because it signed McCree. Though Denver did not lose a high number of players, the ones who left have not been replaced with upgrades.

    Remaining Questions
    "Where to begin?" is the correct question. Let's start with the offense. Marshall is now the No. 1 wideout, but is he mature enough to handle that spot, and will he have enough supporting weapons for him to succeed in that role? Right now, the answer to both of those questions appears to be no. With the retirement of Lepsis, there are questions at both tackle spots. On the other side of the ball, the defensive line is still in disarray as other than Elvis Dumervil there are no proven playmakers across the front four. The addition of Koutouvides allows Denver to move Williams back to the weak side, but there still will be a void in the middle. The safety position, even though the Broncos added McCree and Manuel to go with the aging John Lynch, is a sore spot.

    Denver is solid in very few places. Running back will be solid, regardless who carries the load. Cutler is set at QB, Daniel Graham leads a solid group at tight end and Champ Bailey and Dre Bly give the Broncos a top tandem at CB. But Denver still has a ton of questions. Broncos fans won't want to hear this, but they are closer to losing their grip on second place in the AFC West to Oakland than they are to dethroning the San Diego Chargers for the top dog in this division.
     

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