New York Yankees 2008 Spring Training Thread

I don't have alot of time to post, I don't have time to proof read. Any halfway intelligent person could figure out what I am trying to type.

You run and hide all the time then when another poster is involved in an argument w/ me you jump in.

I don't put people on ignore, I marvel at how w/ each post you appear more idiotic. It's funny and sad. On one hand you want heads to roll when the Yanks roll but then it's all about a nice day at the Stadium and W's and L's do not matter. Which is it?

You are such a complete moron. I said "find all of my Mets post". Not one post, yeah I have posts about the Mets from time to time but someone consumed w/ them would be posting about them every day or nearly every day. Find the posts or shut up.

 

Sure, it does..It doesn't mean those averages will carry over to the RS but it does mean they are seeing the ball and have their hand/eye coordination set. It's a lot more worrisome when you don't as you can only expect those averages to go down.

 

You know what, junc. Fine. Continue your douchebaggery. I'll simply put you on ignore, and try to look away whenever someone quotes you.

You make being worthless an art form.

 

I haven't been paying enough attention the past couple weeks. How's Abreu hitting this spring? Is he off to his supposed typical slow start, or has he come around this year?

I can't wait for real games!

 

dude. please shut the fuck up. there is no science to this. Its my opinion and I really dont give a fuck what you have to say. You may be putting a little too much importance as to what is said on a message board.

 

Abreu is hitting .462. Cano .447, A-rod .500, Giambi .375, Duncan .333, Cabrera .375, Matsui .333. Only Damon .242, Posada at .160 and Jeter at .233 haven't found it yet. I read everybody came into camp in tremendous physical shape this year knowing the kind of spring Giardi would hold. Looks like it is paying off so far.

 

Wow, that's awesome! Finally, no more Happy Camps. I'm not worried about Posada or Jeter finding their grooves. They'll get it together. I always wonder with Damon though. When are his legs going to finally give out on him?

Man, I just can't wait for the games to start!

 

Of course the Sox plunked Jeter yesterday but for a change at least we brushed back Grape Ape. I like the fight in this team already.

 

I was thinking exactly the same thing. There was no doubt that pitch Pettitte threw was intentional. Too bad he just missed. Still it got the point across. You throw at our guys and we will throw at yours.

 

Certainly glad the team is hitting right now because the pitching has become worse than horrible in the last week. Seems too close to the start of the season for them to be trying out new stuff. Hughes especially has gone straight down hill. They aren't even facing complete lineups yet either.

The relief pitching has actually been pretty good of late, I'm really referring to the starters.

 

Joba will start the season in the Pen as most of us already knew...Ian Kennedy looks to be #5.

 

we need us a starter fellas. although cappy has some computer program telling me otherwise, I still feel that we dont have the pitching to make the playoffs....

 

Here's the difference between you and me. I might have "feelings" about the Yankee season, but I'm wise enough to accord them the proper weight.

There's chance involved with any predictions of the future. You can choose to base your predictions on "feelings" or you can base them upon objective analysis, which doesn't flinch, no matter how much sarcasm you throw its way.

I'm sure if the Yankees do well this year, you'll forget all about your predictions, or rationalize them away, because the brain hates cognitive dissonance. If you're right, however -- and there is, of course a chance that you'll be right, because we're talking about probabilities here, and not definitive outcomes -- I'm sure you'll chalk it up to being the Grand Poo-Bah scryer of baseball wisdom, just like the guy playing roulette who just KNEW that 29 was the next number.

What you might be missing in my posts, though, is that I'm making NO personal predictions... I'm just going by what the numbers say, and assuming they'll be fairly accurate. If they're not, I've lost no face... because I never said the predictions were perfect. Only an idiot would assume that they had that kind of knowledge.

 

I think our SP is going to be better than it has been in a long time. The biggest question is do we have a real Ace and I don't think so until Hughes or Joba develops into one.

 

Yeah, exactly. I think our lineup will get us to the playoffs. I just don't know who is going to get us beyond the first round. Right now I don't see anybody. If anything Kennedy may be our most consistent starter at this exact point in time. I know it's still spring training but the season opens in 10 days and I would expect to see more out of our starters by now.

 

I agree we still have no true ace..especially a "playoff ace". Which by the way Cappy, has been proven a few years in a row now

 

You know, if you're going to continue to "call me out", could you at least do it with something meaningful?

Poor playoff performances "a few years in a row" is hardly "proof" of some ethereal concept that media/fans/baseball culture create to sound like they know what they're talking about.

Who was the "true ace" of the 2005 White Sox? What about the Yanks of the late nineties? Was it El Duque? He was better for the Yanks than David Cone was, and more consistent than David Wells. Of course, Pettitte - who everyone adores as being such a "competitor" in the postseason, has a 3.90 ERA. What about Sabathia (whom everyone wants to acquire next year)? Is he a "true ace", despite having a 7.17 postseason ERA? Or Jake Peavy and his 12.10 (!!!) ERA? Maybe the Yanks should get Jeff Weaver, who showed his "true playoff ace" material in the 2006 playoffs?

Meanwhile, Wang pitched to a 1.35 ERA in the 2005 postseason. despite lacking true aceyness. It was the supposed "true ace" Randy Johnson who cost the Yanks that round more than anyone else.

Here's the bottom line. Dominant pitching makes it much easier to win in the playoffs. But dominant pitching is dominant pitching, regardless... doesn't matter where/who it comes from. And given enough appearances, pitchers will tend to pitch to their career levels.

Would I want a Josh Beckett type pitcher on the Yanks? Of course. Who wouldn't? Is it because of some magical, mystical quality that makes him unstoppable in the postseason? No. It's because he's typically a damn good pitcher. Same goes for Peavy, Sabathia, or any other top-flight starting pitcher in the league. But it's silly to assume the Yanks are doomed to failure because they lack a pitcher who has some post hoc label applied to him.

 

Maybe he just should have said all our pitchers truly suck in the post season instead of saying we need an ace. That would have hit the nail on the head.

 

Really not good but he is our opening day starter anyway.

"Wang pitched in a minor league game Friday instead of facing Tampa Bay, a team he is scheduled to go against in the second series of the regular season. He allowed five runs -- four coming in his last inning -- and six hits over 5 2/3 innings."