http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...slug=jc-underthecap031008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns 1. Tampa Bay $42.8 million 2. New Orleans $31.1 million 3. Kansas City $30.0 million 4. Tennessee $27.2 million 5. Buffalo $26.6 million 6. Kansas City $26.2 million 7. Green Bay $24.4 million 8. Chicago $22.5 million 9. Miami $21.0 million 10. San Diego $18.7 million 11. Minnesota $18.6 million 12. Houston $15.6 million 13. Denver $15.2 million 14. San Francisco $15.0 million 15. St. Louis $14.6 million 16. Philadelphia $13.9 million 17. Cincinnati $13.3 million 18. Atlanta $12.5 million 19. Cleveland $12.0 million 20. New York Giants $11.1 million 21. New England $10.8 million 22. Seattle $9.1 million 23. Carolina $8.3 million 24. Washington $7.7 million 25. Indianapolis $7.6 million 26. Oakland $6.4 million 27. Baltimore $4.7 million 28. New York Jets $4.5 million 29. Detroit $4.4 million 30. Dallas $3.9 million 31. Pittsburgh $1.3 million 32. Arizona $310,078 *** Fixed broken link
What would be the argument against giving someone a huge (guaranteed) 1st year salary instead of a signing bonus? If you have the cap room, you might as well use it, right? Is a guaranteed salary treated the same as a signing bonus for cap purposes? I am imagine there is something I am missing. Anyone?
Notice Tampa Bay and Kansas City are up there pretty high (KC is listed twice for some reason??). Those both would be good spots for DRob. C'mon guys throw us a couple of picks and we'll give you a young, durable better than average DT.
lol..Tampa Bay has 42 million? I guess they don't think there was anybody worth signing..or that they already have the best team in football...or they are just cheap bastards. I'll go with the third. BTW, I do believe we may have more than 4.5 million. The link is busted. Are these official numbers or what Yahoo speculates?
There is a salary floor of $82mm according to wikipedia, so Tampa is going to have to shell out some dough somehow.
That's not true. Releasing him after June 1st allows us to amortize the remaining part of his bonus over two years and I have no idea how much that is but we certainly do not get his whole salary due this year back in the available column.
wow that is not great but it does give us a little flexibility I hope it works, I god hope they deal D-Rob I think something can be done but we are probably going to have to pay at least half of his salary if we even want to trade him
Even if we trade him there is still a salary cap hit for part of it. That's the problem with cutting or trading people who have gotten prorated bonuses, they don't really disappear with the player.
According to a number of things I read when the Robertson trade was going down, we would free up $8.4 million by trading him. http://www.nypost.com/seven/03042008/sports/jets/jets_gone_wild_100398.htm I tried to figure this number out after we signed Pace and came up with somewhere between 4.5 and 8.5 depending on some estimates. I used numbers mostly from rotoworld. 4.5 sounds about right to me.
I wouldn't be surprised if Tannebaum front-loaded many of the free agent deals due to the current year cap space.
Good post... I've been wondering where we stand now after all this spending. It's hard to tell if this is accurate, but at least somebody tried to get a handle on it. I'm more than a little concerned about locker room difficulties with some of our veterans. Coles needs to be paid to shut him the FU or traded to get him out of here, one of the two.
I agree that we free up his salary. What that doesn't talk about is his bonus which will remain on the books. The net effect is less than 8.4 million in cap space. Unless of course he was already on the books for more than 8.4 million and the 8.4 number is the part of it that they would save but I keep reading that his salary for this year was suppose to be 8.4.
Tanny needs to get the Robertson thing done, otherwise it could affect what we do on draft day. All this talk of taking McFadden doesn't take into account what we'll need to sign him. If there's no more money in the bank, we'll HAVE to trade down and get out of the #6 spot.
They can wait. They just have to be under the cap before the season starts and it would be crazy to cut him before June 1st, long after the draft. Nobody knows yet what will happen with Coles if he keeps his same attitude. Look where it got Kendall last year. Who might get hurt. Lots of things can happen to vreate cap space between now and opening day. Hell, they may ever keep Robertson.
According to rotoworld his current salary cap impact for 2008 is $12 million, so 3.6 million is probably what we eat from bonus money.
We'll probably only get about $5 - 6 million in cap space to spend on rookies, so even if the Robertson deal doesn't get done we shouldn't have a problem signing the #6 pick. Last season the league average was $4.275 million. I think the allocation is determined by the # of picks you have AND how early you pick. It could have an impact on being able to sign everyone though, so I'm sure they'll do SOMETHING to free up enough space to get everyone signed. Robertson is probably gone anyway. edit: This is what teams were allocated last year. Oakland had the max allocation with the first pick and 11 players @$6.913 million. Code: Team Players Pool (in millions) Arizona 5 $4.186 Atlanta 11 $6.171 Baltimore 7 $3.374 Buffalo 7 $4.061 Carolina 8 $4.086 Chicago 9 $4.043 Cincinnati 7 $3.512 Cleveland 7 $5.674 Dallas 8 $3.540 Denver 4 $2.757 Detroit 8 $5.824 Green Bay 11 $4.907 Houston 7 $3.814 Indianapolis 9 $4.336 Jacksonville 11 $4.916 Kansas City 7 $3.432 Miami 10 $5.367 Minnesota 8 $4.840 New England 9 $3.683 New Orleans 7 $3.371 NY Giants 8 $3.870 NY Jets 4 $2.653 Oakland 11 $6.913 Philadelphia 8 $3.359 Pittsburgh 8 $4.256 St. Louis 8 $3.984 San Diego 8 $3.284 San Francisco 9 $5.420 Seattle 8 $3.007 Tampa Bay 10 $6.102 Tennessee 10 $4.602 Washington 5 $3.432
