The Jets can't win for trying can we? When the Jets sit out Free Agency for the most part, they are ripped. When they play hard ball with veterans, they are ripped. When they let FA's go, they are ripped. When they re-sign their guys, they are ripped. Now, for the first time since the Tuna the Jets are spending big in FA - and for the first time ever they picked up the consensus #1 FA - and overall they add a Pro Bowl HOF Olineman whose won one Super Bowl, another quality Veteran Lineman whose won two Super Bowls...a Pro Bowl DT who says he's motivated to prove himself in the NT position...a former #1 pick who after injuries blossomed last year into a Pro Bowl OLB/DE! Add to that the Jets didn't pay anyone out of line contracts - big yes, but out of line? NO! So, why do the so-called experts now rip the Jets? The TanGini Team is doing everything they can to win - to turn it around after making mistakes last year - learning and improving on the job. What more can these guys or our franchise do? Screw the media, I'm proud to be a Jet fan this month...
Green Guy, excellent post as always. As to why the so-called experts rip the Jets? They are morons. They get paid to rip teams they don't like. The FO gets paid to run a football operation. Year 1 the Jets were aggressive in the draft, not so much FA... and it WORKED. Year 2, the Jets were aggressive in the draft but in a different way, targeting very specific players and ignoring all else. This was horrible for the short term, but should work out long term. The Jets seem to have learned their mistake and realized that getting 2 great players in the draft is not enough to be a winning team. Now they are going all out in FA and I'm willing to bet anything they have their most aggressive draft as well this year. The Jets should be good this year, and in the future. It is a great time to be excited to be a Jets fan.
Dear Green Guy, I'm with you. The media are fond of saying that "this is a copy cat league". Well, the NY G Men did it with the draft and teamwork this year. So popular wisdome is that "the draft is how you do it now." Every year the situation is different for every player in the league. The average life span for the NFL player is about 4 years, they say. But the ones who "stick" stay longer. They are the the players who learn how to get better -- even if they have to completely change their game. Tiki Barber was a scat back coming out of UVA, but he become an RB who ran BIG, he said, trading some tenths of a second for better maneuverability, less fumbling, and more yardage and longevity, as a result. These Pros have overcome adversity and turned the corner. It's our CS's job to pick the ones in FA about to make an impact. With positive motivation, maybe they will do just that.
Well said. The Jets made aggressive moves to address our team's glaring short comings. Even if one or all the picks don't pan out, I am happy that we have a FO that has the will and the courage to spend bucks and take action when and where necessary.
I have always said that if these media "experts" knew what they were talking about, they'd be working for the NFL. We have filled GLARING holes on our team with the best free agents available at those positions. Did we pay a lot? Sure but if you want quality, you usually have to pay a premium. Right now, on paper, our team is 100% better than it was 2 weeks ago. Now I have a question. When these moves translate into wins once the regular season begins, are these Media types still gonna say we did the wrong thing and paid too much money, or will they say that the Jets had a plan and addressed their needs in the off-season?
Gee, aren't you the guy that is usually backing the media and the talking heads? :lol: Those guys are always writing pieces to sell papers, which is why we get ripped often. Nothing like drama to add to sales. Go screw them is right. Whether we were right or wrong won't be played out until we get the team on the field for real. The rest is speculation. Given our current situation on the lines this is magnificent to see some real action for a change.
New York media, in terms of sports, is probably the worst in the country. They like to make a big splash by ripping their teams and coaches for absolutely anything. Kellen Clemens has played 2 seasons here, one of which he saw no playing time, and he is already being written off. One interesting thing I heard being discussed on Sirius NFL channel is that Favre should be grateful he didn't end up with the Jets because New York wouldn't have been patient enough for him to develop after his high interception first few years. Unfortunately, its just the nature of the beast. Fortunately, most of the posters on this board are able to see through most of the BS.
I try to be fair either way... It's not the NY Media it's the NATIONAL MEDIA! Heck, I thought when Sean Salisbury got his walking papers we'd have less crap thrown at our team. I'm sick of hearing and reading that the Browns won Free Agency and the Jets took the risky road! Heck, FA isn't even over and our FO is still working to make us better. Drop DRob and we save more on the cap - so we can sign our draft picks. I'm thrilled with the moves - now adding a real blocking FB - seems we do want McFadden running behind a big Oline - and Chad or Kellen able to throw off the run - we could have Pro Bowlers at RB (McFadden if we draft him or Thomas behind the new improved line) - and two oliners (Faneca and Mangold). That's 2 or 3 offensive Pro Bowlers - and a potential dominating defense with Pro Bowl Players on the Dline (Jenkins and Pace) at LB (Harris is the best young LB in the NFL) and at DBack (Revis is the top young QB and if Rhodes doesn't make it this year it's a crime). That's 5 potential defensive Pro Bowlers. Does that equal a winning team? I think so...
Yea thats the important part. What if the Jets win 6 games next season though? Imagine a team that needs a new coach, has all 3-4 personel, and no money. Do these moves cut the coaching pool down to a 1/3 the usual size? Does the lack of cap space scare away potential candidates? One things for sure, this offseason will impact the franchise for years to come. I really, REALLY hope this team is going to be as good as some posters seem to think it is.
I like most of the moves the Jets made so far. A bit nervous about Pace, but I'm hoping they know something I don't With that said as mush as everyone is fired up right now, if the Jets don't make the play offs next year, watch the ripping the FO takes on the message boards For the record I do think they will AT LEAST make the playoffs
Why is everyone so nervous about Pace? He's got the physical tools - is a former #1 pick who got to the "next level" in his 4th season - what's not to like?
What we've accomplished is to show everyone how SERIOUS we are. Any agent fielding inquiries from the Jets for their client is going to tell his client, "Hey, we've got to go pay these guys a visit," not, "Hey, guess who called? Mike Tannenbaum from the NY Jets... you believe it? Hahahahaaaa.... boy, are those guys a f*cking joke or what?" We've patched up some pretty basic weaknesses and players from all over the league are looking at us in a different way this evening. Now, if we can continue this rampage and draft some good talent (maybe a game-breaker or two), look out. I'm concerned about Coles now though. He could easily become the negative cancer in the locker room that nobody needs at this point.
I agree. I'm more concerned about Jenkins, believe it or not. He's had ultra weight issues in the past, so much so that Tannenbaum put a "weight clause" in his contract and made him sign it. The Jets can get out of the signing earlier and for less money if he doesn't tow the line with his weight problem.
REEKS of Desperation If Herm and Bradway made these types of moves, there would have been a pitchfork/torch-wielding mob surrounding Weeb Ewbank Hall. We will NOT BE ABLE to sign Free Agents for the next 3-4 years? Quality ones anyway. It's desperation because it's a now or never scenario. These moves were not designed for the long haul, they're designed for the next year or two to coincide when Tangini will be looking for an extension. If they deliver, great! All I want is one championship in my lifetime anyway. If they don't...I've seen it all. I expect nothing until they surprise me one day.
227 - trust me Jenkins will be a super edition to the Jets. If anyone recalls I wanted to trade down rather than pick Santana Moss - and use that pick on Jenkins. The guy has an attitude that makes him want to be the best - and play for the best. Read the Carolina boards - he's a leader and will be dominant in his role...and his motor is unlike any DT we've had since Klecko.
DC Troy - no chance! If the Worm and Bad-way had done anything like this I'd have been thrilled! No mob, applause...but they never did - Who says we won't be able to sign FA's for the next 3-4 years? Pennington's contract will be dealt with - giving us more cap money. If we draft DMC then we lose Thomas' contract - that's how it goes in the NFL. We'll dump Coles and his mouth and money next year (if not sooner). Oh, and the cap goes up every year - and the new non-deal means no cap in 3 years...
A) The cap will undoubtedly raise next year, likely by at least $5 million. B) There's a very storng possibility that there will no longer be a cap in 2 years. C) Tannenbaum's one of the best guys in the league at managing the cap. We're just fans of a team, I trust that these guys know what's going on here and have a better idea for how to lay out their plan then we do. It just means that we're signing these guys now because if the cap goes, salaries are going to EXPLODE and what we're calling overpayment now is going to be viewed as a bargain in 2 years.
The reason the Jets get ripped so badly, regardless of what they do, is because they are such a lousy franchise historically and any move they make is open to second-guessing based on that status. There are only three sports franchises that play in the big three media cities of New York, Los Angeles and Chicago that have not at least gotten to the championship game or series of their sport since 1970: The Jets, the Cubs and the Clippers. Now think about how the Jets, the Cubs and the Clippers are perceived compared to all of the other teams that play professionally in those markets.
