Reread the thread, you dipshit. A young poster bragged about World Series that were won in the first half of the 20th century.
There you go again. Youy really need some help. You need to talk to someone about your anger issues. When normal you are a good poster but you lose it way too often.
You cannot tell if I am losing it over the internet. The blood pressure is just fine, Jethro. You sure are a nutcase.
I don't see anything wrong being proud that your team won championships before you were born. I love watching Yankeeography,and i love the stories from older relatives etc. Those stories and the proud history are part of the reason why I became a Yankee fan as a youngster. A team that has had a history of winning...A lot... is very appealing. Sorry some fans of other teams don't have that to talk about. But Yankee history to Yankee fan IS relevant. So we can put that stupid shit to rest.
Old Yankees teams don't bother me, just like the 1972 Dolphins don't bother me (see a January thread in the NFL forum). My issue is not with the Ruth/Gehrig and DiMaggio Yankees teams. My issue is with the fans who brag about 26 titles when they've only experienced four of them. It'd be like me ripping on a Lions fan because the Jets won a Super Bowl at one time. Big deal. Super Bowl III occurred before I was born. I didn't get to enjoy it.
The thing is, the Yankees have a tradition of excellence... for better or worse (right or wrong), it's integral to the team's identity. I never saw Mickey Mantle, or Murderer's Row. But growing up as a Yankee fan, I know about them rather intimately. Look at it this way... if your great-great-grandfather did something groundbreaking, wouldn't you be proud of that? Wouldn't you feel some connection to it, despite you, personally, having nothing to do with it? The whole "26 championships" thing is really just an extension of that kind of thing. The sports version of "My dad can beat up your dad." That said, I think it's a rather pointless argument (as most of these arguments are). Gee, I wonder if we'll ever figure out which sports team it's better to be a fan of. Although, I will say that I've never seen it tossed out there as an opening salvo. Whenever the 26 championships are brought up, it's invariably as a response to someone else saying the Yankees suck.
I don't think anyone will believe this, but honestly I think I'm happier with the way the past is for the Red Sox. I don't think 2004 would have meant NEARLY as much to any Sox fan, myself included if they had won even in the 60's or 70's. I'm on the younger side, I was only 3 in '86, so the only time I really had to deal with the disappointment was when the umpires stole the ALCS in '99 and then the Boone home run in '03. But just knowing that those were only the most recent in a long line of disappointments made me feel like part of something bigger. Once '04 happened, it was a really cool feeling.
I do believe that. I think that's part of what led to the Nouveau Riche Disease I referenced earlier. The entire sports consciousness of New England was wrapped up in the concept of the scrappy underdog for so long. That they were cursed. Winning takes some getting used to. But I think actually witnessing your team's first championship is pretty much the same for every diehard fan, regardless of how long a drought the team has experienced. That's more a function of how you long you have lived. The longer you have personally waited to see a championship, the sweeter it is. Being born in '76, I grew up watching some of the worst that Yankee baseball had to offer in the eighties and early nineties. Seeing the Yankees win in '96 was probably one of the top five highlights of my life, only behind things like my son being born and my wedding day.
For you it would have emant as much, for the older generations that never saw a title it wouldn't have meant as much but it would have been nearly as special had Boston gone 15-20 yearws w/o a title. 1996 was a special time around here even for older folks who saw many Championships b/c it has been 18 years in btw. Trust me, there's no way '04 was more special for you than 1996 was for me and other Yankee fans around my age who were babies the last time the Yankees had one. They were probably equally as special but b/c you guys had gone 86 years didn't make it more special for someone in their 20s who hadmonly "suffered" for about 20 years or so.
I love it... now the great and powerful Junc is going to TELL YOU how important YOUR team's great sport moments are to YOU!!! :lol: And all this time I thought the world revolved around the sun...
It is the poll question for ESPN.com, one more reason for me to not pay attention to ESPN (or MTV sports edition) other than the games they carry.
It's common sense(which I know some posters on here lack). I saw my first Yankee Championship when I was in my 20s, I saw 15+ Yankee seasons w/o a Championship and w/o postseason for most of them. As a kid he got to see the Sox in the WS and in the playoffs alot more than I got to see the Yankees so how could it have been more special to him to see the Sox win than for me? I wasn't alive for the 20 other Yankee World Championships and I was just a young pup for the '77 & '78 titles. I could understand an older Sox fan who went 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 86 years but our waits for Championships were about the same.
The problem w/ that poll is that there are also more Yankee haters so that skews the poll. All the jealous Met fans will be voting for the Sox. There are clearly more Yankee fans throughout the US and throughout the World than Sox fans. More Sox fans have popped up the past 4 years and they have closed the gap but the yanks are still #1 and always will be.
I'm sick of it too. The Sox won the WS, they currently have the upper hand. Congrats to the them, we are chasing them. All I care about is winning again.
I'm not going to answer for him but common sense tells me getting to the Championship is not the same as winning it. :beer:
Won't just making the playoffs or getting to the Championship and losing it be just as special? :breakdance:
